Why is the DHS buying up so much ammo?

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  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Funny how during a time when there is this massive push to restrict people's ability to own personal firearms, our own wonderful Department of Homeland Security is buying up ammo in a way that simply cannot be explained in any rational way. "1,000 rounds of ammunition more per person than the U.S. Army."

    Call me a conspiracy theorist all you want, but since the government won't explain why it's doing this, maybe some of its biggest supporters can.

    Yes, the below link comes from FOX News, which is not any better or worse than any other corporate-controlled news network -- which, like all the others, operate with a partisan bias -- but it seems only the so-called "conservative" end of the phony left/right paradigm is reporting on this at the moment.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...gency-using-1000-more-rounds-per-person-than/
     
  2. Spiral Sea

    Spiral Sea Member

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    they practise shooting more often?

    are DHS the people who have been disapproved for military service and play soldier in their free time?
     
  3. bird_migration

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    Foxs New has Bill O'Reilly, doesn't it?

    Nuff said.
     
  4. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Bill Takes Aim At DHS Ammo Stockpiling
    DHS officials claim it is “simply not true” that agency is hoarding bullets - by Steve Watson

    In response to nationwide shortages of ammunition and concerns amongst Americans regarding the Department of Homeland Security’s enormous ammo orders, Senate and House Republicans have introduced legislation that would limit stockpiling of bullets by federal agencies.

    The bill, known as the Ammunition Management for More Obtainability Act, or AMMO act for short, was authored by Sen. Jim Inhofe (R., Okla.) and Rep. Frank Lucas (R., Okla.) who say that there must be more “transparency and accountability” regarding government stockpiling.

    “President Obama has been adamant about curbing law-abiding Americans’ access and opportunities to exercise their Second Amendment rights,” Inhofe said in a statement provided to the Washington Free Beacon.

    “One way the Obama administration is able to do this is by limiting what’s available in the market with federal agencies purchasing unnecessary stockpiles of ammunition.”

    The legislation would stop short of limiting the Department of Defense on ammo purchases, but would prevent the DHS and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) from purchasing or storing more ammunition than those agencies retained on average between 2001 and 2009.

    “As the public learned in a House committee hearing this week, the Department of Homeland Security has two years worth of ammo on hand and allots nearly 1,000 more rounds of ammunition for DHS officers than is used on average by our Army officers,” Inhofe said.

    “The AMMO Act of 2013 will enforce transparency and accountability of federal agencies’ ammunition supply while also protecting law-abiding citizens access to these resources.” the Senator added.

    “After hearing from my constituents about the shortage of ammunition in Oklahoma and the Department of Homeland Security’s profligate purchases of ammunition,” Rep. Lucas said in a statement, “We have introduced the AMMO Act of 2013 to curtail these purchases so Americans can exercise their Second Amendment rights without being encumbered by the federal government.”

    As we recently reported, the DHS announced plans to purchase another 360,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition to add to the roughly 2 billion bullets already bought over the past year.

    During Thursday’s hearing, the DHS denied that it was stockpiling ammunition with the DHS’s chief procurement officer saying it is “simply not true”.

    DHS’ head training officer also claimed that keeping bullets out of the hands of private citizens was not a motivating factor behind the mass bullet purchases.

    Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, said Thursday that “the math” on the massive bullet purchases didn’t make sense, arguing that the purchases are exorbitant and wasteful and that “It is entirely … inexplicable why the Department of Homeland Security needs so much ammunition.”

    Democratic Rep. John Tierney, D-Mass., at the opening of the hearing, ridiculed the concerns as “conspiracy theories” which have “no place” in the committee room.

    “This is not about conspiracy theories, this is about good government,” Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, retorted.

    Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who chairs the full Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said he suspects rounds are being stockpiled, and then either “disposed of,” passed to non-federal agencies, or shot “indiscriminately.”

    If that is the case, then shame on you.” Issa told the DHS officials.

    The entire hearing can be viewed in the videos below (skip to the 6.40 mark on part 1):

    Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zvYdq0oilJs

    Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g0psTX3qRJE

    Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QHRwxnRQnfQ

    Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LgGejHvO2sI
     
  5. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0psTX3qRJE"]"Oversight of the Federal Government's Procurement of Ammunition" Part II - YouTube
     
  6. deleted

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    It an illusion. Munitions are circulated like food stock.. ammo go bad after its kept for a long time.
     
  7. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Ammo doesn't go bad if you keep it away from moisture. Dry boxes.
     
  8. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    And the gov't is buying more ammunition than historically, that's proven from looking at their contracts. But I'm also friends with a few people at different gun shops and citizens are buying shit up like crazy. If you go to walmart around 5-6 oclock there are people waiting for them to unload the trucks lol. Obama is the world record holder for gun sales :2thumbsup:
     
  9. broony

    broony Banned

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    they are buying the investment...

    ammo sales have been very high since election month and got even worse during the school shooting that followed...even .22LR is out...that says something if .22 is out....

    but..then again, if you were a big business man buying up the supply is an investment...

    would you choose a pack of ammo, or a little bit of gold...id pick the ammo, then take your fortunes at gun point... sadly i think the one's with lots of money buying the bullets are thinking the same...

    i havent been shooting in months cause of sales. Everything has been suuuper expensive... I am glad i have a stash of .223 cause its non-existant compared to a year ago...I for now just sit on my stash, and investment
     
  10. SpacemanSpiff

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    where do you think the Syrian rebels get their supplies

    gotta come from somewhere

    US is probably supplying over a hundred militant groups....hell they even used to supply al quaeda to help them fight off the russians
     
  11. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    I can find 5.56, 6.8, 9mm, .40, .380 and .45 with some amount of regularity. 12 gauge is always available still, slug or 00. I can usually always find 9mm in hollow point but range ammo is nowhere to be found. I walked into a shop the other day and scooped up 3 boxes of range ammo as they were unloading it. $19.99 for a box of 50. I've been shooting a couple times lately but I always feel like I should be saving it, even though I have quite a bit.
     
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