What should be done about Kim Jon Un?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by rjhangover, Mar 31, 2013.

  1. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    something was definitely said about a bukkake.
     
  2. bird_migration

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    Bakkie could mean different things, it's the context in which it's said.
    You won't say "hey neighbour, a small truck with an open body and low sides?", but you would say "hey neighbour, coffee?"
     
  3. odonII

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    Asmodean called bird_migration 'Adriaantje' (Dutch for Adrian) 'Adriaantje' supposedly means (see above) bird_migration isn't (cue hysterical laughter).
    Adriaantje and Bassie were a double act - a little running gag in a few threads today. A catchphrase was: Hé buurmannetje, bakkie? (I thought: Fancy a cuppa neighbour? but I think it is more like:Zin in een cuppa buurman? )
    I asked would that work to broker some peace.
    Bakkie also means pick-up truck in South Africa.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc8hTg3uOPY"]Clown Bassie - Hey Buurmannetje, Bakkie? - YouTube

    I'm sticking to English...
     
  4. bird_migration

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    Pretty well summed up. Although Adriaantje is the 'small' or 'childish' version of Adriaan (which is Dutch for Adrian). If we use "je" in Dutch after a word it means a smaller, childish or even mocking version of the original. Kinda like in Spanish where they use "it" to talk about a smaller version of the original.
    Adriaan becomes Adriaantje (little Adrian), like Roberto becomes Robertito (little Robert) in Spanish.
     
  5. HolyMoses

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    Dont you think Kim Jong Un looks like a big fat baby and likes to throw his toys out of the pram, unfortunately these toys could flatten Cities.
     
  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Perhaps so but to let yourself be fooled by his big fat baby appearance and the jokes about nuclear toys in the media it seems easy for some people to project how he looks on his actual being. Guess who looks like a big retarded baby when they do that in all seriousness.
     
  7. McFuddy

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    Ah... clear as mud. :2thumbsup:
     
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  9. Asmodean

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  10. nanettetron

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    May years ago I read a novel, I do not recall the name , but I would remember it if I saw it. It was about an American Captain that was a POW in North Korea and his biography. I was young when I read it , and I could not believe the torture the meanness and the hunger that this poor important man faced and how he never gave up hope and prayers and his secrecy of American Military secrets.

    I think North Korea is bad, such terrible inhumanities and bad treatment of their own
    people and especially camps. I think we should be prepared to fight them and win.
    We should not take their threats lightly. I pray for those in Washington dealing with this ordeal and that the good Lord would give them wisdom and power to carry out their plans for North Korea and get this crisis into peace for all involved. God can
    do it . God bless the U.S.A.
     
  11. odonII

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    :)

    nanettetron

    'When Hell was in Session' ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reRWml9mcsc"]1979 NBC Theatre Intro When Hell Was In Session - YouTube

    If they have plans and are bringing God into it - that might be a problem.
     
  12. Asmodean

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    It is not the USA's responsibility to save the whole world. If there is really such an urge to save the world they should focus on the states first. And anyway, can't these threat be regarded as a reaction to USA's (support of the) nuclear weapons in south Korea and Japan?
     
  13. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    You say support of nuclear weapons is SK or japan?

    There are no indigenous nuclear weapons in either place, for us to support. Japan could build them if they wanted or needed, but does not have them.

    I don't know about where US bombs are, but I don't think there's much reason to have them out of the US, we could hit them fast if we wanted or needed. NK, no matter HOW many jets they have or whatever, would never be able to do a damn thing, they would be no better protected from bombs in the US, than bombs in SK.

    Maybe if they didn't periodically threaten to launch preemptive (nuclear, civillian murdering) strikes against SK, japan, and the US, we wouldn't have our shit pointed at them.
     
  14. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    Allow him to commit suicide if that's really what he wants.
     
  15. RooRshack

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    He just wants to wave his dick around. He's playing brinksmanship games because he wants respect, because he's a hilarious spoiled brat in charge of a (tragically) comical dictatorship. He's like a james bond villan, only more rediculous.

    The problem will be if his ego runs away when nobody respects his bluffing, or if he thinks he can fire on south korea, as they have in the past, until they get what they want. It looks like the south will react very strongly, and if they do, the US will be a part of it, no matter our will in the matter, at this point. And if this happens, it doesn't seem like there will be another cease fire until there is one korea, whichever way it goes.

    The other problem is his 400k hostages. Nobody would give a fuck about his suicide, but all-out war in korea would, again, be a fucking humanitarian disaster. Especially if his radioactive firecrackers work. And especially if there's nuclear retaliation.

    I still hope that the US, russia, and china can do some evil shit, and just take him out. All three of us, though we don't always see eye-to-eye, like double-crossing and secret plans and assasinations of foreign leaders, this should really be a small matter. It would be cool if we could do evil shit in the name of good, for once.
     
  16. deleted

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    Al-Qaeda scientists mastered human clone technology and cloned Kim Jon Un to make a look like Kim Jong Un and start WWIII..
     
  17. Individual

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    I wonder how many of the N. Korea high ranking military would be willing to sacrifice their lives in support of such a beligerent idiot?

    Even if he were to launch a nuclear armed missile attack, it wouldn't take a nuclear retaliation to lay the country bare, and a large number, if not all the persons trying to enter the South at the onset of such an event would likely be seeking safety and not combat.
    If anything I would tighten the sanctions, allowing China alone to fill their needs and wants if they desire, and if China refused maybe then the people might begin to think about overthrowing him.
     
  18. RooRshack

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    I'm not entirely sure I believe that he's in charge at all. Of course he probably thinks he is, and I think his father really was, but I think the military/advisors picked the replacement. I'm sure that the top brass have all the same sadistic power hunger driving them, that the leaders have. I don't think they would have placed him there if they couldn't control him, and I expect he knows that they can take him out, all he needs to do is have a heart attack from the massive stress of running the country, and have some other illigitimate child step in.

    And you have to worry about the sanity of the generals, as much as the leader, when you consider the world they live in. They may get to eat, but they still live in insanity, even if they're the ones creating it.

    The problem is that it's a half century dynasty of murder and starvation and psychelogical attack, it's like living in a prison. Even if they don't believe it all, it's got to be very hard to know what to believe. Communication is very limited, it would be very hard to know who would rise up with you. Even though the whole country knows there's something wrong, I think there's probably a degree of doubt and self-loathing, considering the contrast of the doubt and how obvious reality is, and how forceful and all-enveloping the psychelogical attack is. And the military eat better than the rest, I'm quite sure, which must have an advantage as far as loyalty goes.

    Even if it's from the entirely analog age, it is quite a military, they put EVERYTHING into it. That and half-finished hotels, anyways.

    I agree, there would be no need of, or gain from, nuclear retaliation. But I hope other world leaders would see it that way.

    How the fuck do you back down from being north korea? If you're too reasonable, you fall in a silly way and eventually join SK, if you're too aggressive, you become the former DPRK, a south korean development project. And even if you don't want war, you live in fucking insanity, remember, we're THREE GENERATIONS into total insanity, it would be like if there where two stalins after stalin (and if that happened, isn't it reasonable to think that there would have been nuclear holocaust by now?)
     
  19. Individual

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    I'm content to sit back and watch, allowing him to run his mouth, keeping a couple of subs within striking range if a need were to arise employing them to act, with no immediate rewards even if he shuts up, and maybe even requiring verifiable demilitarization as a precursor to any future aid.
     
  20. deleted

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    thumbs down al qaeda lol., Where you think Un got all the nuke hardware? Pakistan...

    The creator of the Pakistani nuclear weapons program has handed over documents that he says show senior military officials were paid millions to give nuclear weapons technology to North Korea, putting further strain on a tense US-Pakistan relationship.
    Abdul Qadeer Khan, an American-trained scientist and head of the Pakistani nuclear weapons program for over 20 years, says that two senior Pakistani military officials kickbacks from North Korea in exchange for the technology. Khan gave documents to Simon Henderson of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, who is seen as an expert on Pakistan's nuclear weapons program.
     
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