Hey there Brothers and Sisters i have a question regarding lucy. In my trips my discoveries, I can't deny the fact that lucy has changes A LOT for me. Getting all the positive perspectives helping humanity, enjoying tinny little things the present moment, infinite possibilities with imagination. What everything lucy show US is also present there if we are aware. In the books, arts, people, skies answers are there. Lucy makes you experience many thoughts, ideas, perspectives. Tripping it all out again? again and again? because there is always endless possibilities right BUT it is life my brothers and sisters. The REAL psychedelic trip starts when you start actually doing something other than tripping. You can always push limits with lucy but after getting the message why keep talking again and again. So you are asking ok? What are you asking? Does Alice ever took acid again no is the part of the story i know... I only want to share one last trip with my love thats it. Apart from that what do you think of using acid for musical concerts can be really enchanting to the experience more than anything ever else. I find using acid such way IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO USE ACID but you understand where i am trying to get thanks.
This is one of the biggest misconceptions about psychedelics ever. The psychedelic experience is one that uses your memories, feelings, emotions, etc as content for the journey. So you think that using LSD at age 25 is going to yield the same results as taking LSD at 50? Sorry, wrong. There will always be more to ask as long as you are still drawing breath and maybe even afterwards as well.
Which one do you think is more stable revelations happening in one trip or achievements of a lifetime with empathy caring learning and love? Good discussion keep it up fellow freaks. My main point is that what you achieve with acid is already there you dont need acid too see it.
The stability of the psychedelic revelations comes when they are integrated and utilized in your everyday life. They go hand in hand. The psychedelic failures are those who abuse these substances as "party drugs". True, LSD literally increases the amount of sensory data you process as well as internal data, so yes, literally what you perceive on LSD is always there. But it is difficult to maintain that mindset and carry it into daily life. That comes with time and experience. But as I said, there is always more to be learned from psychedelic experiences. My experiences now that I am a husband and a father are entirely different than trips when I was younger. My point is that psychedelics utilize YOU and your experiences as content for the trip, so as long as you continue to live, learn and grow, there will always be some benefit to psychedelic experiences.
Good point my friend. LSD offers really different experiences, Psychedelic experiences grow as we grow too and what we learned until that points help us reach higher revelations but after all the content is there. So psychedelic experience will continue for sure... :2thumbsup: but with different substances many many Just start looking well i agree is hard to maintain that headspace but why the hell not!
If psyches are so empowering, then why must they be used over and over. It seems to me that users are kind of trapped within those episodes when they use. Eventually the answers need to reach the soul.
Is your life stagnant and devoid of any new things? It is not that they must be used over and over, it's that they will always provide new benefits and potential lessons relating to your current situation. As I already stated, psychedelics utilize your internal stuff to provide content for the experience. As you grow and change throughout life the content available for use in a psychedelic experience has also changed, so the content of the experience will be very different and can offer new insights into current life situations. Not really sure what you mean by "trapped within those episodes"? I'm guessing from your post that you have no or little experience with psychedelic substances beyond maybe youthful recreational use.
Yes Nox, you are correct. I've used LSD once, and it was fantastic, and made me very close to those that I shared the experience. I guess the "growth" you speak of is what I refer to as being "trapped within those episodes". In other words, it is during those specific hours you get to have the experience, and otherwise they're transient. And maybe users often want to have their inner emotions validated during these experiences because perhaps they aren't getting affirmation within their environment. I would challenge that people maintain their strength out of pure conviction rather than needing to seek altered states to feel they are doing what is right for themselves.
It comes down to the fact that every psychedelic experience is different. I didn't have the acid trip that really changed my life until around my FIFTH time doing LSD. People do psychedelics for different reasons. For some people, it's because it is a "fun" experience. For others, perhaps they are in some sense, "stuck". For me, it's because it is a highly rich human experience to undergo, one in which I can connect and reconnect to myself, to my mind, to my love, to the earth, to the universe . . . We are not such static beings that taking acid once is enough. There is this quote, from Ram Dass I believe, about "hanging up the phone once you get the message". But even Ram Dass took many psychedelics in his life, even after "getting the message". It's also important to understand that not only is he only as much of an authority on LSD as you allow him to be, but he was speaking from a time when LSD was everywhere and everyone was doing it all the time. LSD use in some circles was more normal than alcohol or cannabis use. I used to work with a woman who had done LSD too many times to remember, but had never even tried pot, and said back when she was young, nobody smoked pot, everybody just did acid. Figuring out your schedule of use, your comfort level with re-entering the psychedelic headspace, is part of your set when you take a psychedelic, and is influenced by your setting as well, by the cultural appreciation of psychedelics, including whatever sub-culture you are immersed in (one that says its something to be taken every weekend, or every concert, or once a year, or once a decade . . . ) I've taken LSD in settings that were poor choices, and sometimes my trip is simply a little more "poor" as it reflects this, and other times it doesn't matter that my intention was poor, I receive a powerful experience and learn a lot, usually against my will. Unfortunately our macro-level culture is one which not only doesn't understand psychedelic experiences, it denounces them and demonizes them, so we are left to our own individual interpretations of use, which leads to many opinions on what is the "right" way to use something like LSD . I hope to continue using it throughout my entire life, as some of the more experienced members here have been saying, they find tremendous value in it even towards the goldener years of their lives
Calgirl, dunno if it's how I read your post or what, but it seems like you put the psychedelic experience in with opiates, or your typical Friday night drinking session. I can see where you're coming from, but the latch to psychedelics goes much deeper than that. You don't just escape from reality, you're confronted with it.. which brings it's own set of pitfalls I'll admit, because it's incredibly exhilarating.. I'd say I've been "stuck" for the past 2 years. Every trip has been enjoyable but it's been like the same story plot, just told differently. I'm currently on a break from pretty much everything besides coffee(coming up to the end of my second month, longest time in 5 years, woohoo!) which has been very much needed, but I would be in a much more uncomfortable position(internally) had I not had those experiences. I would challenge that people do whatever is right for themselves, regardless of what substances they choose to/not to take.
My trip was full of visuals that had no meaning except pure asethetics. It was extremely enjoyable, and probably a product of the safety I felt with the 3 guys I was with. The 4 of us met at church (nondenominational). All 4 of us had gone through a "backslide" period, and we had that in common going into our experience. At the time, my life was really fucked up. Hated my job, overwhelmed in college, lonely, broken hearted, and emotionally very fragile. How I ended up with a good trip is something I've always been grateful for. Yes, life is full of learning, continual learning. Even at this later stage, I am in a huge transition that forces me to look inward all the time, and face how I'm going about things incorrectly. It's painful, and I am flawed. Perhaps if I used psychedelics, I would better further see how I'm fucking things up. Or maybe I would get answers. In either case, I cannot trust whatever my subconscious conjures up is valid, and/or what is imagined. The mind is a powerful thing. I have no criticism of those that choose the route. I'm just curious how they 100% insure their experience is meant to apply to life, and how they intend on making permanent changes.
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance... Complete respect for your vision, brother. I stopped for 15 years, tripped once, then stopped again for 25 years. I applied the psychedelic vision to my life. There were plenty of times when the vision was lost, but overall, true to the Way and now, deeply grateful to the unfolding. And tripping again.
Life is always fucked up. Period. The only variable you have any influence on is you. The 100% guarantee comes from seeing that YOU are the PSYCHEDELIC trip. Drugs are just different keys that open different doors. The trip applies to life because it is YOUR LIFE that is the trip. :sunny: All these guys here have said the same thing with different words. The second part is key though. Intent on change is the action. You have to bring that part yourself as well. Just like tennis. Doesn't matter what kind of racket you have, you have to practice and try to get a little better each time. That's the gift that's recently been given to me and I tell you what, I've never felt so blessed and loved in my life. If I can manage to step up. Radical.
Hey Murritim, I saw another post by you: "I wish y'all old hippies join the new hippie movement. Psytrance trance dance experience!" That's what I've been saying. To me, these smaller psytrance gatherings (300-500 people or fewer) are what we had in mind in the 60s - peaceful, loving, psychedelic gatherings where the music starts Friday night and stops around noon on Sunday. Camping with brothers and sisters. I wish more older people were involved. Last weekend I was giving a class at one and I looked around at ~30 people there for the class, nearly all young, and I thought, anyone who doesn't think there are hippies anymore hasn't been to one of these. Looking at the hippies branch of HF, nearly all of what I see is reminiscing. And that's fine, but there's a lot of really amazing things happening out there right now. Sunday morning about 3am I was dancing and stage was so beautiful with deep art and the neurotrance was INTENSE and I couldn't believe it was ALL REAL. So yeah, old-timers, off your ass and on your feet. Dance mofos!
