Psychedelic Bump XXI

So someone sends me this today via email....






Who was who in 1923 and what became of them[FONT=&quot]
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[FONT=&quot]In 1923, Who Was:

1. President of the largest steel company?
2.. President of the largest gas company?
3. President of the New York stock Exchange?
4 Greatest wheat speculator?
5. President of the Bank of International Settlement?
6. Great Bear of Wall Street? [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]These men were considered some of the worlds most successful of their days.

Now, 90 years later, the history book asks us, if we know what ultimately became of them.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

The Answers: [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

1. The president of the largest steel company.
Charles Schwab, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Died a pauper.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

2. The president of the largest gas company,
Edward Hopson, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Went insane. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

3. The president of the NYSE,
Richard Whitney, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Was released from prison[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
To die at home. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

4. The greatest wheat speculator,
Arthur Cooger, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Died abroad, penniless. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

5. The president of
The Bank of International Settlement, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Shot himself. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

6 The Great Bear of Wall Street,
Cosabee Livermore, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Also committed suicide [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

However,
In that same year, 1923,
The winner of the worlds most important road race,
The Isle of Man T.T.,
Was

Stanley Woods.

What became of him?


He won 10 T.T. Races between 1923 and 1939,
He lived on the Isle of Man and rode motorcycles all his life. He lapped the island circuit at 82 mph in 1957 (The Golden Jubilee) aged 54
He was a wealthy man when he died aged 90. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

The Moral:[/FONT][FONT=&quot]


FUCK WORK.
Ride motorbikes.[/FONT]

 

Nothing like making a dark psychedelic ritual at 3AM join me if you can folks. Kashyyyk has a new album universus a um. I got Tikhal from Alexander Shulgin he is my second father in law i love him like a father. Also im in love FEELS really different never been ever never whole my life i feel really high 7 24 cant wait to smoke some weed or do some psychedelics combo with this euphoria. I love you all my psychonaut friends

 

Awesome post voyage, and very true. With what shall our hours be spent?

bump for 60mg MXE last night. Hit me hard and got me thinking, I love when it does that . it's got this great analytical potential to it, hard to use sometimes.

 

GOOD GUY GREG IS A GOOD GUY. He wouldn't do that shit.

 

hes been corrupted long ago..

 

Wanna check out a bad ass movie? It blows minds, you've been warned.:sunny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlKrhndjF6k"]Working Man's Death - Brothers - YouTube

 

Bump for 400ug LSD on friday night and another wonderful transcendent experience... LSD is a ticket to play in God's imagination :sunny:

Then 110mg + 50mg top-up MDMA saturday night... some great visuals + guiding a close friend through his first good trip - he finally let go :sunny:

 

There was/is a debate amongst therapists/psychonauts about what state of mind the trip sitter should be compared to the tripper. Should they be on the same substance? Same dose? Should the sitter be sober? Would that hinder the process in any way? I like your approach of being on MDMA as a sitter, that would mean you're not sober, but still completely functional and unhindered, and also shining a strong positive energy that i'm sure would benefit the tripper.

 

you trip more frequently than you get a hair cut.
just realized this was true for me yesterday when i got my first haircut in 4 months. still haven't tripped since 2012 though.


i've often wondered about tripping in a group where people are on different substances. i've always aimed to dose everyone the same.
actually one friend ate 4acodmt (30 mg) while 6 of the rest of us ate 150 ug LSD. that worked out fine.

 

I contemplate this a lot.
It's almost as if lsd could help one manifest reality.?
Even after it wears off, Insights stay, I want to hear more crazy stories with lsd and metaphysical events.

 

As for who should be on what, it depends on how experienced the sitter is.

If the sitter is quite new, then sober or MDMA is best.

If the sitter is very experienced and can move through the different levels without trouble and control what they share, then LSD is most definitely the best.

Sproggy is very experienced - to the point he can get back there whenever he wants - he doesn't need LSD anymore - he just likes it because it gets him to the higher planes of existence and I think some things are more vivid.

I wouldn't be where I am now without him, a trip with a very experienced guide is a must for anyone who has trouble letting go.

It worked out very well, he was a bit nervous after previous trips - unfortunately he'd been creating his own hell (Admetus).

It probably didn't help that I was just opening up myself and he was pulling me with him, so I wasn't reacting too well to it and we were bouncing off each other.

Trips are very much shared experiences and I was too new to help him on those trips.

This time we decided that either he would trip by himself or with Sproggy and me and firefox would be on MDMA. That way he had the security of semi-sober sitters he could talk to if he needed grounded reassurance and also as it's so shared, we could feed positive vibes into him.

Turns out, now that I've been able to connect relatively easily to the shared consciousness - MDMA let's me open up to see quite a bit too.

I was able to see and play with his visuals... that was cool.

As he was coming up, he had a couple of uncomfortable moments, but we were expecting he would have to get over his issues before he could release himself. This didn't last long at all and he released his negativity... from then on he had a great time.

As he was going through the uncomfortable phases, I was able to calm him by sending him some of my rushes and calmed breathing... I loved learning how to do that :sunny:

MDMA now gets me into that shared headspace, so we were with him for a good part of his ride.

As for me... I got to see firefox's spirit-self again... some golden glitter had appeared around her eyes, drawing me to look in her eyes. Behind her eyes was her spirit waving at me and drawing with pastel colours on the whites of her eyes.

Haha, yeah - since the first weekend in Feb, I've tripped every two weeks.

It's all been like hitting resume - learning more about myself and waking up on the other side.

I've glimpsed parts of where we go when we die and while it's making me appreciate the now and I'm going to make the most out of this life, I'm looking forward to where we go after.

I got a message from my grandfather on friday too.

Some people can let go on lower doses... firefox was able to release herself on her first trip with only around 100ug.

For me, I needed that big dose to force me to let go of my ego - now I can get to the same place on MDMA, let alone a low dose of LSD.

I like the higher dose because it makes the visuals that bit more vivid and seems to let time stretch out a bit more.

That wasn't my own interpretation - that's what I was told :sunny:

You can play with your own imagination or just sit back and enjoy the show.

 

Feeling more and more like this every day.

I foresee a day with Lucy during my upcoming week off from school.

Got my hands on some of those good Hoffmans that are going around. :sunny:

 

:drool5: nummy!

Those new hoffmans are generating interest.
I too foresee a trip, likely bicycle day. Something novel like legit blotters would be fun but fortunately I have a microdot or two around here somewhere.

 

tasty, i'm just wondering how/why you seem certain that all of that stuff is real. stuff like seeing spirit selves, getting a message from your grandpa, seeing someone else's visuals and being able to manipulate them...where we go when we die.

lsd is great because it opens people up to new or alternate possibilities..but for me it only makes those things POSSIBLE, not absolute.


2nd question tasty..
what can a guide do to help someone let go? i feel like i've been a decent guide when i turn on my friends, but it's more in the way of trying to make sure things go smoothy, not assist them in letting go and having ego death. i'm not sure that i encourage that for myself.

after reading so much stuff from you about shared experiences, i'm even more excited for my next trip, which will be with a group of people. in the past i've mostly tripped alone or with one other person. even with one person, you really do connect quite a bit, and your trips are really one trip.

 

A guide can help someone let go by talking them through it. If they are both tripping, by leading with example even. The tripper will say something like "but what about my job?", and the trip sitter can say something like "what about whos job?", and that can be a catalyst, just as a simple example.

It's a combination of CBT and socratic method. It's not necessary for ego death, but if it's available as an option, it can help. We are very suggestible when we are tripping, we can be suggested to murder someone (charles manson), or we can suggest that we are being telepathic, or communicating with the earth from centuries past, or we can suggest to let go of our identity and be swept away, or to love ourselves, to recognize our divinity, etc.

In this sense the trip sitter is like the conductor of an orchestra. The work he is conducting is not his, it is say, Beethoven, and even the physical hardware it is being performed on is not his, it is the orchestra and their instruments, but he can direct how that performance occurs with some degree of influence.

 

Yeah, I kinda think Tasty is getting swept up in it all and tending towards "magical thinking". It is easy to fall into, I know I did to an extent when I had abundant access to LSD.

It is a slippery slope to be sure.
Sure all the fantastic things Tasty is relaying are within the realm of possibility, I personally doubt the probability of some of the accounts.
Personally I think it has alot more to do with suggestibility, intent/expectations and the direction in which you take a psychedelic experience.

Now Tasty I am NOT saying your full of crap and your experiences are not valid, but I think you have fallen into a kind of self-fulfilling psychedelic quest. You set out to explore/test XYZ, take a mega dose of LSD with testing XYZ as a primary objective, can you see how that can influence your interpretation of the events?




We need to set up a double-blind experiment with a large sample base to test these theories.

Any volunteers?

 

:afro:

 

Count me in. :sunny:

 

I've often thought about the suggestibility factor.

I am on the fence as to whether psychedelics actually open someone up to serious wisdom, truth and knowledge...or whether they simply make whatever you think up while high SEEM so monumental, wise and true.

It may be the primary effects of psychedelics is to make one's subjective impressions seem more valid. Further discussion of that topic would be really interesting to me.