Girls, is your current Husband/boyfriend your best ever lover. And.......

You and I may disagree on this thread topic, but many others are actually in agreeance with me here. Just because someone doesn't agree with anything you say, doesn't make them argumentative. On the contrary, it may actually make them sensible

And if Biteen is trying to call people trolls, then it must be his method of retaliation against him being called out as a troll. I would expect no less from someone like him.

 

it's like watching a car crash. you know it is horrible but you can't take your eyes off of it.

also, I am hoping that my words give at least one woman reading these posts hope that she doesn't have to live in a shitty relationship, that true love really exists, that not all men are selfish pigs, that she can really be happy and not settle for variety and novelty as a substitute for passion.

 

Well, I'm glad to see you're honest enough to admit you're just trolling for the most part.

 

The point of that post went way over your head. Oh well.

 

I wasn't looking to make you agree with anything I was saying. IIRC, you said you'd like to "understand" why guys and gals do what they do. I was hoping that post of mine, even if you disagree with the lifestyle, would help you and FX understand the why's. *shrugs*

 

I think that's a good summation about his stance on this issue.

 

What would've helped me understand the rationale would've been people currently engaging in the scenario, opening up and having an in depth (intelligent) discussion about their philosophical mindsets. That didn't happen, and at this point I no longer care. Time to move on...

 

I have still yet to hear why you, jacobklein or any other man would want to be a cuckold or what is going through your mind when another man with a cock that dwarfs yours is pleasuring your woman. What do you think your woman thinks about you? how you expect her to be satisfied by you after that? why you think she should stay with you? So far I've heard nothing about any of that. Tell me why a woman should respect you when you allow her to fuck someone else? Tell me what you would sacrifice for a woman who could walk out the door and fuck someone else?

Please tell me about these things.

 

Read my first post monkjr, that pretty much explains it!

 

@mindriot.... Why are you bothering? The two posters in question did nothing but attempt (and fail) to insult Jacobklein from pretty much the moment he first posted.

One of them laughably suggests that he wanted to......"Understand the rationale of people engaging in this scenario, and having an in depth, intelligent discussion about their philosophical mindsets!"

You could not make that up! Lol What he actually did was say that Jacobs girl was a gold digger, that his girl should not be with him, that he was weak, and then he accused him of jerking off to his profile pics.

Biteen has got it right, time to ignore them I think!

 

Oh now you want to quote me. Why don’t you go back and quote the imaginary statement you tried to pin on me? The only thing laughable is how your ass has been Owned all up and down this thread. You didn’t have shit to say when I called you out on your bullshit. Now you want to pop back in, as if everyone might have forgot what you did, like you all of a sudden have credible ground to stand on. How much more do you wish to embarrass yourself?

 

Just like I stated in one of my initial posts in this thread: I'm not currently engaged in this practice, although I find it interesting to say the least. And this is getting exhausting, so I went back through the thread where Jacob first posted and go through a few posts from there on.

It's not hard to understand Jacob's motivations, he's already stated it in his first post here: He's got a girlfriend and they both love one another. His girl, unlike him, has a much greater sex drive, along with a sexual interest in BDSM that wasn't mutual. Since even though he's tried (and presumably still does), he still couldn't satisfy her completely: he was cool with his girl taking a lover so she could take care of whatever needs that he couldn't fulfill. The arrangement, if he finds it uncomfortable or whatever, could be ended if he wanted. And apparently they still have sex regularly. He's posted that, along defending himself against being called "weak" and having a "loser mentality".

Pretty much the whole deal should have sufficiently answered whatever questions were asked, but a lot of judgmental bullshit went down, insults, false presumptions and whatnot got in the way of any understanding.

The fact that you all say you wanted to "Understand the rationale of people engaging in this scenario, and having an in depth, intelligent discussion about their philosophical mindsets!" is laughable at best.

 

It's just something to do while I'm online, plus the discussion interests me to a point.

I have a question for you, though. This goes back to the "hypocrite" discussion. I remember you praising that lifestyle even if you wouldn't engage in it yourself. xxaru did his usual thing and insulted you for it, slamming you as a hypocrite.

My question is: Is the reason that you are not involving yourself in it due to being with someone where that's not in the cards? (ie. He's not into it, so you wouldn't push the issue.)

OR hypothetically: If you found out your boyfriend was into it OR wound up single and found someone else who was, would that be something you'd be into doing?

On a side note: For all the talk of engaging people in an intelligent discussion, you seemed to be the only one that did that with Jacob.

 

I don’t know why you feel you need to keep trying to explain what you believe the rationale/mindset of others living in said lifestyle to be. I’ve made it quite clear that I no longer give a damn. Unless this is directed at someone else? I'll say it again... I'm no longer interested in that discussion. I’ve moved on… you should do the same.

 

You weren't to begin with, that's the point.

 

Not true. But you can think whatever you want. Your opinions have been of no importance to me in this thread. I only started responding to you as of late. But that's going to stop now too. Just direct whatever future statements you have for me towards Fx.

 

if your gf's sex drive is higher, do you refuse to fuck her when you aren't in the mood? if you can get an erection you can fuck, you don't need to be horny to get hard. If you physically not capable of achieving erections then why would you want to be with a nympho? There is no law that a man needs to cum every time he fucks. I sometimes have trouble orgasming but I still fuck my wife and don't feel like I need to cum. Just being inside her is enough reward.

also, if I'm a woman and had experienced a 10" cock then slept with a man with a 5" penis who didn't make me orgasm from penetration would I want a relationship with that man? My wife tells me I am the biggest she ever had and I am only 7 3/4". I can tell by the way she responds that she likes having my cock inside her. If I was 5" and when we were dating she didn't seem that excited about me being inside her I wouldn't have married her.

BDSM. He's not into it. Neither am I. if I started fucking a woman and she told me she needed that I would either learn to like it or stop fucking her.

I dunno but being compatible sexually with someone should be confirmed before getting really involved in a relationship, especially living with each other. If the sex isn't great for both partners why would you move in together?

but the idea that a man could simply say I'm not interested in satisfying my woman sexually, so she can fuck someone else seems like a cop out.

 

You're going in, like, twenty different directions, each is you making an presumption that isn't based on anything stated. Jacob also never said anything about being impotent or being unwilling to satisfy his girl. Lets boil it down to the one question you keep repeating in this thread, that has been answered time and time again and ignored, by you, time and time again.

"Why be with someone you're not sexually compatible with?"

It's akin to if there was a couple where one person was vegetarian and the other wasn't, where the veggie says "hey, I don't like meat, but you can have it yourself."

1) Again and again: Relationships are about more than just sex. Jacob and his girl, along with other cuckolds and their wives, have regular lives where they're fully compatible, happy and in love.
2) The couple had talks about what to do, then they came upon the idea of letting her get some on the side. They both agreed on it. The very act of openness in the relationship shows that they very much ARE compatible sexually.

But you're not JUST fucking a woman, and he's not JUST fucking a woman. You are married and he is in a committed (long term, I assume) relationship with his girl.

Here's a hypothetical for you. Consider this: You're not into BDSM. Lets presume that you would never get into it no matter what. One day you find out that your wife has harbored those desires for a while and wanted that to be a part of her sex life. Would you leave her, just because of that one area where you're sexually incompatible?

 

this is a flawed analogy. a vegan and a carnivore can sit at the same table and eat two different meals. sex is a shared experience, it's not like one person could be straight and one gay. you have to have some compatibility for it to work

first, I would sit down and discuss with her what those desires were, why she didn't tell me sooner and exactly what it is she wanted to do. I love my wife and if she felt like she needed to do something that was not dangerous (like choking, torture, etc.) and she could respect my fears of confinement (handcuffs, enclosed spaces) I would be willing to try almost anything. if this involved whipping without drawing blood (with either me whipping her or vice versa) or role playing with harsh language or her putting on a strap on and ass fucking me or me blindfolding her and chaining to a spreader bar I would do any of those things to make her happy. The hard limits are I could not be confined or restrained, no bloodletting, no burning and no other partners. aside from that I could be persuaded to do alot by the woman I love.

I know you keep saying sex isn't everything in a relationship. I agree, but it is really, really important. I am not a trusting person, I need to know I can trust the person I am sleeping with. I don't want to share. I am a pessimist with tons of insecurities. I will not share my woman with anyone.

 

Yeah. And Jacob chooses to share his girlfriend with someone else. It doesn't effect the core of their relationship and, apparently, it enhances their own sex lives as well.

You're not a sharing person, that's fine. Jacob, from his own words, is a confident and outgoing person. His girl getting some extra on the side doesn't bother him and it doesn't hinder their relationship. It doesn't make him see red and get all jealous. Which applies to that of other cuckolds and their wives.