Girls, is your current Husband/boyfriend your best ever lover. And.......

That's the million dollar question. Though I'm pretty sure we can infer why the women would stay (selfishness, gold digging, etc. ). I was trying to understand the psyche of the males who would stay in such a relationship. But instead of explaining their mindset, they took the probing personally and resorted to hurling insults. I don't believe we'll ever get an honest answer on this thread... and frankly, I really don't care anymore.

 

Well, if you had no self respect, took no pride at your manhood and felt that you didn't deserve any better than a selfish, gold digging whore bent on using and humiliating you then I could see why.

 

I've had the best sex of my life with my man, but that's only maybe like one in 20 times that it's really good and even less often that it's mind-bending.

Sometimes it can be pretty awful, just pathetic and passionless and lazy and I just want to say "let's just stop and do this when we're not so apathetic."

He's asked me, I lie. I hate lying and I would think he can tell because I read like a book, but whatever, it's the kind thing to do.

I just finally confessed to him, after 15 years, that I didn't get off the first time he went down on me. We were teenagers and he seemed so proud of himself at the time when I faked to get him to stop because it was annoying me and I wanted to move on. But I figured i could tell him the truth since he knows me so well now and knows oral never does it for me (I think it could, but it never really has).

It was funny because I can't really remember how many contextual clues were in the conversation before I told him, but I remember he knew what I was going to tell him before I said it.

 

Oral for me is the same lol. I can get close but I think I've only had an orgasm twice but I've told my man this so I've never had to fake it. His confidence is starting to increase which is making our sex life better lately he now doesn't feel like he has to ask me for sex he'll just start to kiss me or start some sort of fore play which is a nice change. The other day he completely took me by surprise, bent me over the bed lifted up my skirt and started spanking me and he's never had the confidence to try anything like that without permission before.

 

Because sex isn't everything. It's just one facet of these couples' relationships. That's without even getting into the fact that this is a fetish and maybe both sides of the relationship are compatible with it and secure enough in their love to want to actually engage in it instead of just keeping it an empty bedroom fantasy.

And all of you that were railing against Jacob are honing in on one thing way too much: The whole "I cant satisfy my wife so this is my solution" bullshit. That might be true for some, but not true for others in this relationship. Some of them get off on the size difference, some don't give a fuck. Some guys can fuck their wives just fine, but want to see her in the throes of an orgasm that they can't quite achieve. For a lot of the men, it's a voyeurism thing and for a good deal of the women it's an exhibitionism thing. It's enjoyment watching and being watched. It's about spicing up their relationships. Some of the guys get off on humiliation, some don't care for it. So on and so forth. I've read up, looked into and tried to understand open relationships, because I find it interesting. From swinging to cuckolding. You keep on asking "Why?" of both the women and the men. Why don't you finally get off your high horse and go to a forum like ourhotwives or something of that sort and ask there. They have people who have actually experienced the lifestyle and, unlike your fuck up of a cousin, actually seem happy with their relationships.

You, specifically, seem to be looking for some specific answer, something simple that you can sum up and reason so that you can wrap your jealous mind around it. You strike me as an absolutist on this subject, where everything is black or white and you just don't conceive gray areas mattering. Which is why I don't think you're going to find anything that could do that for you. The answers are going to be different from one person to the next, because the realities, situations and variations on the lifestyle differ from one person to the next. Different kinks, different turn ons, different boundaries, etc. Whether it's swinging or cuckolding.. It's an incredibly diverse lifestyle. I don't think the cavalcade of reasons that exist for these couples could be tied up in a tiny bow.

And then you go on to make a fucking joke of yourself with that ridiculous mock up quote.

@You & xxaru:

And it's amazing, really. You guys still wonder why you were met with scorn. Don't act like this was some innocent probing that you and FX were doing, man. You behave like assholes to both the men and the women and then you expect them not to return the favor in kind. What kind of double standard bullshit is that?

The truth is that throughout this thread you guys never wanted answers to any questions, you just wanted more fuel to verbally attack the guys in these relationships and build yourselves up.

And you both think that you're "strong secure men".

Get the fuck over yourselves.

 

You are wasting your time! All guys like that ever want to do is spew their own diatribe. You just know that they are as bitter in real life, as they are on here, although its possible that they may just be trolls, either way, they love the sound of their own voice! They cant help but repeat the same bullshit over and over again. That Jacob dude was the best, and most interesting part of this thread. They are just boring old farts........... Just do what I do now.

Ignore them!

 

I'm not allowed to answer this thread because it isn't gay friendly. Boo.

 

Dude, I'm the Daddy of this thread, what I say goes, and I'm soooooo gay friendly. So answer away.

 

My girlfriend has always been my favorite lover. Maybe because she was my first and knows my body or maybe because she's just that good but yea, my current lover is my best lover. XD

 

I think it is natural for sex with a partner that you have been with for such a long time to become a little mundane at times.

I orgasm really easily from clitoral stimulation so oral or fingers or toys are great for me! Only one man has ever made me orgasm from penetration though!

 

Lol biteen! You can be so manly and butch when you want to be!

 

He's not a bf or my husband, he is a new fuck friend. Everything he does pleases me, and he is especially talented giving oral. His coordination, and strength, and just slightly edgy way of pushing me around, and trying things without really asking, and his cock size, and his body hair, and his dominance really turn me on. I'm very content and can hardly wait until the next time.

 

Now you know your body is capable of orgasms from penetration alone, what was the differing factor that made it possible that time but not others? Was it physical or mental?

 

100% physical!

 

Elaborate please, because usually us guys hear the opposite answer.

You can talk to me in private messages if you prefer.

 

I don't believe xxaru is a troll, just an argumentative person whom I have disagreements with. I would think that the bulk of my last post in this thread probably (hopefully) gave him (xxaru, that is) an idea of what he was looking for.

FX, on the other hand, is incredibly difficult and stubborn and someone whom I have little hope for to understand anything that isn't monogamy. He says he doesn't understand open relationships and people engaging in casual sex, then whenever someone explains or tries their best to elaborate on why people forgo the traditional relationship model - it's met with nothing but critique that's based on the outdated ideals he has about sex and relationships. From what I can see my last post probably had zero effect on him whatsoever, because he's behaving the same exact way in other threads on this area of the forum.

 

When I try to imagine what it must be like to be a cuckold I am filled with shame. To admit that another male is more sexy and better in bed is to reduce me to insignificance.

when I try to imagine the woman I love with another man I am consumed with rage of jealousy. why would she want to be with someone other than me?

When I think about fucking another woman I think, why would I want to? I love fucking my wife, I love her body, why would I want to fuck someone else? I have everything I need already.

 

I think it's amazing how you go from pontificating about why a woman would want to be in a cuckold relationship to making it all about you and your insecurities, jealousies and so on. My response post to you earlier in the thread:

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showpost.php?p=7583807&postcount=451

I think that answered things rather thoroughly on both the male and female "justifications" for engaging in a cuckold relationship.

 

I wouldn't 'get off' seeing my wife fucking another guy. I've got the biggest cock my wife has ever had and she thinks it is too big sometimes as it is. She has ZERO interest in having sex with anyone else.

next point?

 

You clearly don't even understand what a cuckold relationship is even about.

Why do you spend so much time in these sex-related forums if all of this stuff shames and frightens you so much?