Debt forgiveness?

What people like Odon do not understand is that you cannot grasp this whole concept of "debt" and "debt forgiveness" until you understand how money actually comes into existence. All debt is based on a scam, since money itself is actually debt. Loaning money to countries in debt only creates more debt, which is exactly what the bankers want so they can take control off all the resources and land, which, unlike their monopoly money, are REAL and have REAL value.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8"]Money As Debt - Full Length Documentary - YouTube

 

Oh, good grief. It doesn't matter how money comes into existence. You have money in you bank account don't you? You earn, spend and save money don't you? For the purposes of this discussion, it really doesn't matter about the middle man. I also understand any money going from A to B inevitably ends up in a bank, and the bank benefits even if that is 'the world bank'.
You keep reverting to a simplistic notion of a bank lending money - rather than what we are actually talking about.

 

I completely agree with pressed rat. All debt needs to be forgiven. Debt is not real and neither is money.

 

Why don't you and Pressed_Rat stop paying your bills, burn all of your money and everything you have bought with money, then stop using money, give up your jobs (if you have one) and go live in the woods or something?

 

Avoid becoming indebted and forgiveness becomes unnecessary.

 

I would but my son won't let me. He insist that I remain a part of this insane place called society.

Has anyone heard about OPPT? They claim to have figured out how to buy every single human being on earth out of debt. They say they have foreclose on all the financial institutions of the world. They call the powers that be: the powers that were.:2thumbsup: I am on a mobile and don't know how to post links on this thing but there are a lot of you tube videos on it just key in "OPPT" into the search field.

 

Cash and carry and live debt free.

 

I agree with Rat on this one. Money is god damned imaginary. It's the fundamental lie which holds our society together, that money has value. And I'm pretty sure I agree that the illusion should be shattered, and that a new actual value of labor and items would be agreed upon.

Probably be a little anarchy in the interim, and I'm okay with that also. The biggest problem with the debts as I see them, is their frequently lended to kleptocrats who spend all the loans on their 40 mansions, and then when they get overthrown or whatever, the countries are still saddled with the debt.

 

And since what the banks are doing is illegal,,,here's a loophole.. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread915030/pg1

 

"Debt forgiveness" is pretty much what happened in the bailouts.

Which I can give a fuck less, providing that the cost isn't dumped on the taxpayer (as it usually is..)

 

Has anyone looked up oppt on you tube yet?

 

Well, since your son makes your decisions for you...

 

Perhaps his/her son is a politician.

The right to forgive debt belongs exclusively to the person/persons the debt is owed.

 

Gender:
female

I doubt.