it makes my heart heavy...

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by miami musician, Dec 27, 2004.

  1. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    you want me to tell you how I actually felt about 911?? exactly how I feel about the disaster yall are talking about. it was just a pity party (worse than the earthquake). I hated how overblown the whole thing was, and the news coverage, and the rememberances they have every year. like that whole deal never really touched base to me at all. people died, unjustly. big deal. it happens all the time. why do I need to send money there when it probably isnt even going to get there in the first place?
     
  2. clockworkorangeagain

    clockworkorangeagain femme fatale

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    yeap, you're so wrong here....so these days its "hippy" to care?
    it's hippy to feel empathy for an underprviledged country...
    you really are a twat....
    ...and to tell you the truth i dont even consider myself hippy
    i do however wish i could do more for the benefit of the world than what i do do...speculating really doesnt do much, but hopefully allow for a better awareness, and cull ones like yours
     
  3. miami musician

    miami musician Senior Member

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    he doesn't realize how hyprocritical he's being right now... he wants to help people in his own country, yet he doesn't even want to help people ravaged by people in disasters in his own country. don't you hear yourself? you're not even making sense anymore. there's nothing wrong with caring, there's nothing wrong with lending a helping hand. whether it was by neighbor or a brother from a far away land, why not help another in need? it's just the right thing to do.
     
  4. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    hey IM sorry...... but there are alot of crooked people out there....... even if you think you are making a difference, and you do send money to help out a cause, more times than not that money is not going to the person or people that need it.

    and Im not the type of person that is stingy and never helps a soul out. if a panhandler walks up to me and asks for change, I will give it to the person. I just have to know its actually going to someone who needs it. and if you even send humanitiarian aid overseas, who knows that money is actually going to the people that need it?? most of the time those governments just comfiscate that money/food.
     
  5. HoneySuckleBlue

    HoneySuckleBlue Cosmic Artist

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    Y'all just focus on what you want to see and you'll see it.

    When I turned onthe tv and saw the news coverage today I saw them wrapping up box after box of childrens tylenol and other supplies to ship over and talking about ways to prevent it from happening again and who the reputable charities were...then of course they switched to the coverage of the inevitable airline failures ths year...the bastids.
     
  6. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    nope.......

    I didnt want to help out the people who had relatives that died on 9/11. I didnt want to help out those ravaged by hurricanes in florida.

    I think its you people that are acting hypocritical.
     
  7. miami musician

    miami musician Senior Member

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    i think it's a good thing our country is going to give $15 million in aid to the countries, along with $4 million from the european union. i may not agree with many of america's policies, but that was very charitable of them to do that. at least someone cares...
     
  8. clockworkorangeagain

    clockworkorangeagain femme fatale

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    yes...see i think what is happening is everyone is getting caught up on this "the right thing to do" lately that they are making it seem better to go against all grains...it's right to do your homework - well why then? It's right to be good to others...But why should i?

    once it was cool to break rules, now it's cool to have no ethics and morals...

    it's pathetic that we just keep digging further and further into our own stench of society...wake up, madcrappie, and realise you'll need help oneday...and hopefully it will be there for you...but karmically maybe not (damn...i just said karma - i must be trying to be a hippie)
     
  9. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    yeah and you are the type of person to go onto an online forum and call people names, yes you are such a "humanitarian"
     
  10. miami musician

    miami musician Senior Member

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    let's not go into childish arguements, this was going along very well until you try to hit below the belt.
     
  11. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    ohh I did??

    I think Im the person that is being attacked and was attacked first here for my opinions.
     
  12. clockworkorangeagain

    clockworkorangeagain femme fatale

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    nah we are not being hypocrites....but i think in a sitcho like this the money is going to be used for the purpose...i do however agree with you on other charities that tell you to sponser children and so forth, becuase i believ a lot of them do not send the money also...
     
  13. mariecstasy

    mariecstasy Enchanted

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    i think people just like to argue...
    this isnt about what you see or i see or what any of us see...
    this is about thousands losing their lives...a government injured...and a country devasted...we all just need to ignore how we feel about our media or government and give those poor people our reverence for what they are dealing with....
    this arguing about every gosh darn thing isnt doing any good.....and i am saying this to myself too. i normally dont come into random thoughts that often but in the last couple weeks i have gotten swept up in the anger and blame and hostilities that go on in here of late...
    peace to those suffering now....we arent gonna be able to give them peace or help with fighting w/ one another.
     
  14. mariecstasy

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    so that i can know...how did they say is reputable as far as charities...i got some extra dough today.
    i
     
  15. clockworkorangeagain

    clockworkorangeagain femme fatale

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    i already said in another post that i wasnt being a humanitarian..and i dont see myself that way....i was just stating my empathy and that i'd like to help them and agreeing about americas media and government...however, the govt is supporting asia, whether the media is or not... when did i claim to be a humanitarian?
    of course im gonna call a fool a fool if i c one...i dont care ifits "hippy" or not...
     
  16. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    all Im saying is, you are showing your empathy for another person's or countries misfortunes on an online board. like a humanitarian would..... but yet you would call another person who has different opinions than you a whole slew of names..... what a hypocrite. and you tell me that Ill be karmically kicked in the ass?? IM not going around this forum calling people "idiot" or "twat" or "fool" just to get my point across.
     
  17. HoneySuckleBlue

    HoneySuckleBlue Cosmic Artist

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    Indian Americans have started organising aid efforts. The National Federation of India Organizations has already collected about $10,000 from its charitable accounts and is aiming for $100,000. Those wishing to send money toward relief efforts can do so to the following organisations:



    1. BAPS Care International
    Contact: Shailendra Adroja; 1-732-744-1744

    Checks payable to: BAPS Care International

    Address:

    195, Main Street, Suite # 304

    Metuchen

    New Jersey-08840

    Payments can also be made online (beginning later this afternoon, EST) at



    2. Association for India's Development:

    Contact: Aniruddha Vaidya, 1-650-996-8249

    1-888-TALK-2-AID or (301) 422-4441

    email: info@aidindia.org

    Contributions to AID can be made through secure on-line credit-card deductions from AID's website (www.aidindia.org), where further details and updates will also be posted. Please indicate that your contribution is for the "Relief and Rehabilitation Fund".

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    (Please indicate "Relief and Rehabilitation Fund" in the check memo)



    3. The National Federation of India Organizations

    Contact: Rajen Anand (703) 642-3156, (562) 537-1077

    Checks (tax-deductible) will be sent to the International Red Cross for the use of ALL victims in all countries.

    Checks payable to: NFIA

    Address:

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    4. The Hindu Temple Society of North America

    Contact: Dr Uma Mysorekar (718) 460-8484

    Checks (tax deductible) payable to: The Hindu Temple Society of North America

    Address:

    Hindu Temple Society of North America

    45-57 Bowne Street

    Flushing

    NY-11355





    Just to name a few...Care international was what we saw most on tv.
     
  18. clockworkorangeagain

    clockworkorangeagain femme fatale

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    lol, yes you are right...
    but i didnt say you would get karmically kicked...just maybe..
    i just cant understand why you would not even care, but thats your prerogative.
    i think i used the names for emphasis, and it was a stupid way of doing it...atleast i can admit when im wrong..
    you have some pretty harsh viewpoints, which sketch you out as a cold, ignorant type of person, but im not gonna hold you to it...
     
  19. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    like I said, I wouldnt give money to charitable efforts, you dont know where that money is actually going. Id rather go there and hand the money to a person that needs it. but seeing that I dont have the actual money to get there, I cant do that sort of thing..... so the best thing to do is to pray for them.
     
  20. mariecstasy

    mariecstasy Enchanted

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    actually they are bound to tell you how much of it goes where you are contributing...i have a friend who does fundraisers and they are obligated by law to tell you the percentage that goes to the cause...i would prefer in person as well...but what can you do...you can do the best you can...
    and i read somewhere once something that struck my strongly....if you dont give when you dont have, you will not give when you do have...this is so true.
     
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