http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsimulated_sex This is the one I was thinking of - but couldn't remember the name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_Songs
I have seen both the movies. Any other if you know. Anyways thanks for your effort borntobwild and OdonII
You just don't get it. If a movie shows real sex with actual penetration then it will be rated XXX and designated pornography. doesn't matter if it's one scene or two hours of fucking, if it shows penetration, it's considered pornography. Actually I think any scene showing an erection is also grounds for an X rating, limp dick is just an R rating. At least in North America it's that way.
How so? Actually I qualified it and acknowledged my limited information based on my geographic location. All points I made are valid and whether or not I "ruined my argument" really depends on where the OP lives, doesn't it? If he lives in North America, he will be presented with the same restrictions/definitions I mentioned, will he not?
No, you're wrong. There is a genre that's usually called "Mainstream movies with real sex" and these are not porn films. They were all shown in non-porn theatres. I started a thread a couple of years back on this very subject, but it seems to have disappeared. There are quite a few films on this list. Not all of them show penetration, but they all show erections and/or pussies and actors engaging in real sex. An old example is "Caligula: The Imperial Edition" and a recent example is "Sexual Chronicles of a French Family" (uncut German edition). I'll find the list and post it. A few others are "9 Songs", "All About Anna", "Romance", and "The Idiots".
Am I wrong? If I remember correctly Caligula was rated XXX in America and classified as "adult" or porn to use the more common vernacular. It certainly does qualify as "hard core". One other point, no actors of any degree of fame engaged in sex acts in the film Caligula. There was the representation a few times, but all the actual hard-core scenes were with no name people, not the main actors in the film, as far as I remember. If you are talking international films, I already stated my lack of specific knowledge. Now I do understand there are films that have sex in the film, but the sex is not the focal point of the movie. That is the type of film you are talking about, like Caligula, but they are still technically classified as XXX material based on the film ratings systems in the U.S.
I saw Caligula in Boston when it first opened in a normal theatre. It was not considered porn. What difference does it make that the famous actors in that film did not have real sex? The topic is "movies with real sex". Most of the other films in the list do show sex performed by the main actors and most of them are unrated, in some cases NC-17. I have seen many of these films. I just saw Sexual Chronicles of a French Family and every one of the six or so main actors is shown having real sex. It is a serious film with good acting and concerns a serious subject. Only two of the films on the list had so much sex in them that frankly I would consider them to be porn -- "The Band" and "Baise-moi". 9 Songs is an interesting mainstream film that shows a young couple who love to go out to see live music events and then they come home and fuck, often rather creatively. This film features a spectacular ejaculation scene, filmed in a very loving way, and I don't think anyone considers this film to be porn.