DHS Scanner Reads People at Molecular Level: Coming in A Few Months!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by PJ1783, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. PJ1783

    PJ1783 Member

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    DHS Scanner Reads People at a Molecular Level: Coming in 2013

    Being how TSA has expanded in scope well beyond it's intended role and DHS (which controls TSA) is practically a domestic intelligence agency, this will be used outside of airports. Technically there's already a youtube video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=K4s6HwzJwbc
    Which discusses this but doesn't go into the most alarming detail:

    If you could scan certain wavelengths which this device operates at, you could also determine what parts of the brain are oxygenated and de-oxygenated determining brain-activity which is how fMRI's are able to determine brain activity -- and they've done some impressive things which are increasingly amounting to what can only be described as mind-reading as insane as it sounds.

    With a device like this, you effectively have mind-reading technology that can work from a distance. This looks like the perfect means to monitor people in absolute detail and it's not for the good of the public.

    This honestly strikes me as government gone insane and technology run amok. Over the past couple of years we have seen ever increasingly invasive means created, developed and used to spy on us and intrude into our lives often without any suspicion of wrongdoing. I guess it's only logical that they'd eventually graduate to this.

    This is a major threat to citizens anywhere -- this article discusses it as a U.S. development, but Russia is working on something similar which means other countries will eventually develop this.

    I want to hear everybody's opinions on this matter -- a group of people I know have come up with some proposals of which all are non-violent and I think most of you would want to hear about it
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Living in the world no different from a cell.
     
  3. PJ1783

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    Pressed_Rat

    I don't understand...
     
  4. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

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    Ridiculous man.
    I think there's a thread here about the security at ground zero. Which is top of the line as well. A.i I believe , it remembers patterns and can detect anything "odd" or out of the norm
    Check it out. This one sounds crazy though,
    I like to think my thoughts are private; they probably came up with some loophole with airwaves being public,
    How do you think this will be a threat though? I mean if you're not doing anything wrong?
    I just want to know how dangerous it is, or of the side effects are short lived.
     
  5. Aerianne

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    This is fascinating technology and should become very useful in the medical field.
     
  6. odonII

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    It can't read you thoughts.

    Living in the world no different from (living in) a (prison) cell.

    (C.R.E.A.M)
     
  7. PJ1783

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    jaredfelix

    It sounds ridiculous, I agree -- but the sad fact is there's nothing I've seen to suggest I'm wrong. If you've ever been in a hospital there's a black clip they put on your finger and it's used to determine Pulse Ox.

    You ever wondered how a device attached to your finger can detect how much oxygen is in your blood? Well, it basically shines IR and near IR light through your finger -- blood absorbs IR and NIR differently when it's oxygenated and deoxygenated.

    Now an MRI is a gigantic magnet which essentially spins hydrogen protons which are in water and sensors in the magnets pick up this resonance and computers turn it into an image.

    An fMRI (f = functional) effectively uses the magnetic field to pick up differences in your blood when it's oxygenated and deoxygenated and from that you can infer brain activity. When parts of your brain are working at certain levels of activity, they absorb a certain amount of oxygen, so in that area you'd pick up a reduction of oxygenation in the blood. As a result you can figure out which areas are online and at what level and so forth at what time.

    With sufficient knowledge of the brain, you can infer this brain-activity and figure out what's going on. Already they've developed the ability to gauge a person's intentions (mentally they'd have people think of whether they're going to add or subtract for example -- they were able to determine years back with a 75% accuracy whether they were going to add or subtract, something which I assume has increased), what image a person's looking at (they had people look at several cards which had an image on them and recorded activity as people looked at them -- then they had the person think about the image and they could tell which one the person was thinking about), what part of a room a person was remembering walking around in and so on.

    Now the wavelengths this laser works on is similar in behavior to IR and NIR and it's design to resonate molecules in the body and using ultra-high processing power can determine what chemicals are in a body, and possibly what parts of the brain are oxygenated and deoxygenated.

    It sounds nuts but it's not science fiction.

    What you are thinking of is the Domain Awareness System correct? It includes police and private cameras which are interconnected through a centralized processing system which using A.I. algorithms can identify faces, suspicious behavior and so forth.

    I something can be done, it doesn't matter really what you think can be done -- it can be done.

    The government doesn't operate in the interest of the public, they operate in the interests of powerful business, banking, and oil interests. All this surveillance that's been coming up over the past years pretexted under fighting terrorism is more or less being used to protect themselves from the public.

    They want to predict who at what point has some possibility of posing a threat to the status quo. If they could identify which people are discontent and which ones might try and change the status quo, they could use it to either jail or neutralize such "threats" even if their means are peaceful.

    This administration has disturbingly asserted and acted on the right to assassinate even American citizens if they believe them to be a terrorist but over the past years the definition of terrorist has expanded to ridiculous levels to the point where protesters have actually been classified as low-level terrorists

    Though it was alleged to be a scoring error, when OWS lit off there were counterterrorism officials at every protest indicating they meant exactly what they said.

    Firstly, if you're doing nothing wrong the government has no business spying on you -- secondly I personally believe that there should be limits as to how far government can intrude into one's life and one should have the right to keep their thoughts to themselves.

    What do you mean? To your freedoms it's totally dangerous and the effects are permanent; if you mean to your health, the effects are probably harmless which makes it more likely to be used.


    Aerianne

    This has a far greater likelihood of being used as a surveillance tool -- it's being designed for that purpose actually. As for a diagnostic tool, there are other scanners that work adequately and do not pose such an invasion of privacy risk.
     
  8. Aerianne

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    That's not what the article you linked to says:

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012...er-scanner-reads-people-at-molecular-level/e]
     
  9. PJ1783

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    Aerianne

    As far as I know, they haven't made any efforts to develop a diagnostic tool of this -- this is entirely developed for surveillance. They're lying to make it sound less dangerous.

    Also if you look at the links in the article I posted you'll find a description that it behaves similar to IR and NIR which as I described could be used for brain-scanning...
     
  10. YoMama

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    I stay away from places like airports. I think it is a real shame that privacy is being lost. People don't seem to care about it any more if they did this would not be happening.
     
  11. PJ1783

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    YoMama

    Doesn't matter TSA operates at areas other than airports, including places like Train-Stations, Stops, and Checkpoints.

    To make it worse people do not feel as if anything can be done about it

    Some don't care, others feel powerless to do anything... that actually comprises most of the population.
     
  12. YoMama

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    If people refused to go to airports and train stations and any where else that searches or scans them the scans would end. As long as there are people who will allow it they will continue to do it.
     
  13. PJ1783

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    YoMama,

    No it wouldn't -- they'd just scan people's homes. This isn't about protecting us from enemies...
     
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