Dude gave me 2 hits of blotter he said was LSD. I took both, and it tasted horrible. Extremely bitter, even made the tip of my tongue numb. I started feeling funny within ten minutes, and within 20-30 min the wood grain on my floor was a rushing river. It was a lot heavier than acid.....I was trapped on my couch for the first hour and a half. I can take a fist full of good acid and be in public just fine. But on this shit, I was getting paranoid. Visuals were overwhelming at first. After three hours I was finally able to relax and smoke some herb. Entire trip lasted about 10 hours. Couldn't sleep even after the effects wore off. Any ideas?
Most likely a DOx or 2Cx-NBOMe. Your duration is a little longer than a nbome should be, and a little shorter than a dox should be. really it's impossible to tell without some real scientific data (urinalysis or something). edit: reread the OP, sounds like this was most likely a nbome compound. It is sold online, on blotter, dirt cheap. Perfect for "fake acid."
Thanks. I know nothing about RC's. A kid I know had them, he's never tripped before so I told him I'd test it out for him to see what he's in for. I'm glad I did because it was a lot "heavier" than 'cid. It could get overwhelming fast for an unseasoned tripper. RCs are ruining LSD's reputation, in cases like this. A first timer drops what he thinks is LSD, goes to places in his mind he didn't want to go. Now they won't touch acid and spreads lies about what it does.
the thing with 25_-nbome on blotters, is that you only want to take one (or less) for your first time. one blotter may very well be a high dose. and it's not safe to take high doses, like with legit LSD. horrible taste, bitter, and tongue-numbing sounds like 25i-nbome or 25c-nbome. coming on within 20 minutes would make me guess it was a large dose. when i tried 25i/c, it took ~50 minutes to kick in. i would describe it as more shallow than lsd, not "heavier" unless you mean on "body load"
Definitely NBOME. So sad to see these thread continuously popping up . . . as Orison said, whenever sampling a new batch of "acid", start with 1/4 (0.25) of a hit to test the waters. You will find out what it is without being possibly locked into a high dose RC experience. there's nothing wrong with NBOME, lots of people love these chemicals, but they become wrong when sold as "acid". Please make it very clear to your dealer that you are aware he ripped you off, you are aware what the real identity of the chemical in question is, and that it's on him to make it right with you. Don't let this kind of BS fly. You now have the power to influence him and prevent him doing this to other people.
There was no dealer. Someone gave me a couple hits to try out for him. He's never tripped before and asked me to do a trip report so he could have an idea of what to expect. I think he picked them up from some random guy at a party. I guess the 1/4 dose sampler is a good idea. I don't think I would feel anything if it were real LSD though. Are you guys saying that I would feel such a small dose of these RCs?
they are saying that it's possible to have quite a hefty dose of 25i on one blotter. so just in case they are dosed high like that, you might wanna start with less than one hit to test it. i don't think i would feel 1/4 of a hit of most LSD either though. maybe not ~250 ug 25i either...
Well consider that many of us are purposefully buying and doing 25x blotters, so we are definitely sure that acid-like 25x blotters exist. Obviously they are being sold as 'cid. Maybe even the very same blotters that we purposefully dose are being sold as 'cid. Of course this was gonna happen.
The LSD blotters I've had (the good ones) and the NBOME blotters I have, I could feel 1/4 hit and be able to tell which is which. If you don't think you could, up it to 1/2 a blotter. The problem is that very saturated high dose RC blotters are circling in a community that is mostly used to weak LSD blotters. People are taking 2-3 hits expecting a "good time" with LSD and instead getting what is almost a heroic dose of substances with very little scientific data on them, leading to bad times and rough trips. This can be easily solved if one simply samples any new batch of "Lucy" they get with the knowledge that it could be a whopper of an RC dose there. Start with a 1/4-1/2. If you barely felt anything, at least you know it's either bunk or LSD. Move up to 1, 1.5. no need to rush. if you are working with a very limited amount from a source who you don't know if you can trust, then tough beans. It's your call whether you wanna risk eating those 2 hits you scraped together to afford and risk it being a very large dose of a substance you can't even pronounce. I'll tell you right now I wouldn't ever buy hits from some guy I met at a party. Not a chance. Not unless we sat around talking chemistry, history, and philosophy, and this guy proved to me he knew his shit and he's a real character who I can trust with my neural chemistry.
It's a variety of things. People keep asking to lower and lower the doses of LSD, in a decade it's gonna be like $100 for a 100 ugs LSD trip. Some people are unaware of how powerful LSD can be because of lowered doses so I've read some just assume that the 25x-nbome is stronger acid than they have had. The Nbome's can be complexed and non-complexed which produce a variability in strength of trip, people are mixing these nbome chemicals which may cause a variablity in response, some who don't enjoy them don't consider them 'real' trips or 'real' drugs which I think could be misleading to certain people. It's kind of a clusterfuck. I'm about to take acid sometime in the next few weeks, I'm going to take one and let it sit in my mouth for a few minutes and see if I notice any definitive taste "If it's bitter, it's a spitter" or numbing and then if nothing within a few minutes I'll dose a couple other hits.
definitely nbome, tastes so foul and the tongue numbness is weird. makes you feel well ill but craziest visuals I've ever had
^^^try N,N-DMT or 4-aco-dmt or high dose LSD (or 2c-e) those all gave me better visuals than 25i/25c, though i haven't taken a ver high dose....b/c it's not rly safe w/ these nbome chems!!
i have but it didnt work fully. my friend makes it so its just getting the spare money really lol and i guess what i mean is as opposed to acid and the 2cs and things that last for a while (unlike dmt), nbome gives you like no headfuck and mad visuals, so thats all the trip is whereas other trips you're focusing on what you're thinking a lot more
i know its unsafe, nothing should taste and feel that bad without being poisonous. still good visuals though
2ce and 2cb provide little in the way of "headfuck" when compared to lsd. i've had the strongest visuals from 2ce of any drug i've tried. 25i+25c made me feel stupid. if you're tripping just for the visuals...that's pretty lame
Complexed 25i-nbome gave me stronger visuals than 2ce and comparable at least to any other trip that lasts several hours. I had never experienced such polished 'HD visuals' from a phenethylamine before. Some of the visuals were spooky stuff and I experienced a fairly paranoid tone to the trip which hasn't compelled me to seek out those chems again anytime soon.
yeah, i don't think my 25i+c was complexed, so i'm prob not absorbing the whole dose. i have no doubt that the nbomes can be very visual, but to me it seems that there are safer drugs that are at least almost as visual.
Almost definitely one of the NBOMe series. Those are the only substances on blotter I know of that can make your tongue numb, and they're also VERY bitter, in comparison DOxs seem almost tasteless. The duration and fast come up fit too, I can say with 99% certainly it was one of them. I'd hazard a guess that it was either 25B-NBOMe or 25I-NBOMe based on the intensity and duration, and I'd lean towards 25I, mainly just because it's more common, but that's really just speculation and there's no real way for us to tell you which of the NBOMes you took based on some vague description.