Ok I am taking the time to write this because i know it will help alot of people. I say that only because 4 days ago I came to denver where i previously lived and everything i had for a two week trip to get my dads ashes was stolen, wallet, cc's, stereo system, clothes etc. Then after sleeping in my car for two days I was in a car accident in which I lost my cat and a really dope beamer, and I just got discharged from hospital and im 3000 miles away from home and typing this from a kinkos probably shouldnt be on the top of my priorities. Now that I finished whining like a little bitch I will tell anyone whio wants to listen how to kick their opiate habit in 7 hours, actually I cant imagine many people having a bigger habit than I do so chances are it wont even take that long. I was injecting at least 2 grams a day for at least 7 months, and before that when I had less money I was doing about a gram a day for over a year. Before rthat when I even had less money I was doing about a half gram a day for over a year. So here is the deal, my dealer got busted, and being in a new town I couldnt find another one. Day one.....I did my last half gram shot it up in muh foot and being that it was really good shit I didnt start feeling sick till around midnight. At midnight I took 40mgs of methadone. Day two. tried to get some shit was unsuccessful coping in downtown denver so reluctantly I bought a half gram of crack at about 9pm being that the meth lasts 24hours. Hadnt smoked the shit in years, never really did but I knew from a past experience it really helped even though you would think it would just make you more anxious, it helps trust me. Hey, I am only telling you this in the interest of full disclosure, I think it is pretty embarrassing but whatever. After I finished the crack it was about 3am and I started to really get dope sick. Sneezing, nasal discharge, watery eyes, you name it I was feeling it. Soooo, my dad passed away about 6 months ago and I had some of his old drugs. 400mg seroquel and 600 mg neurontin aka (gabapentin) Even though I had no idea if the neurontin would help or hurt but i had nothing to lose, I( knew the seroquel would help me sleep though) Anywho, I proceeded to take 200mgs of seroquel right away and 200 mgs about 5 hours later and a mindbending 7200 mgs of neurontin within a 12 hour period. I went to bed, like 100% completely passed out and didnt wake up till about 11am(the only reason I even had to take this crap is because my car was broken into and i had no money.....otherwise i would have went to little mexico in denver and asked every shady lookin dude i saw to cop for me.) Once again, full disclosure. I dont want any leaks in my story for anyone who is apprehensive about trying this. And yeah I realize not everyone has seroquel and neurontin but i guarantee any doctor will write that shit waaaay before they do 5mg percs which wouldnt help a dope addict kick in a gizillion years. Ok, ill stop babbling. Day three. About 12pm I started to get the anxiety, the soreness in my legs and all that shit. Took about 4000mgs of neurontin and for about 7 hours, compared to previous times when i was sick(about 3 times in 3+ years)it was relatively nothing. Jerked my arms alot, kicked my legs alot(thats why they call it kicking right?)and had a wee bit of nasal discharge. I swear on my dads ashes that was it, hardly any anxiety compared to kicking with other methods. (Although I dont know what its like to kick with subutex/suboxone etc being that I am too much of a pussy to wait the 48 hours before you have to take it.) Annnnyway, In that span of time I wrecked my car because too much neurontin combined with drunk lady without insurance or greencard running stop sign and had to bolt quickly before cops arrived to arrest me for tons o' warrants. Sober I probably could have avoided the accident. Point being dont try to drive after taking that shit and all I grabbed was my laptop and neurontin, had I not have had side airbags i would be dead. For the third time, full disclosure. I dont want ppl thinking why the fuck didnt he keep taking the seroquel. So 7pm rolls around and I swear to fucking god I realized I didnt feel that bad, actually I kind of felt good.....well not really good but I was nodding like a motherfucker and what junkie doesnt like that feeling? Took a couple thousand more mgs of neurontin and slept pretty damn good on a fucking bench in denver. Day four. Woke up on bench at 10am, too tired to move, nodding like a mofo so I went and crashed on the grass in the sunlight until about 2pm. woke up at 2 and felt a little bit tired, no other kicking feeling at all, took about 1800 mgs of neurontin every 6 hours and felt fine, although i did have 3 or 4 sneezing sessions I had none of the major effects of kicking you would normally have,. Probably the worst being the anxiety, second to the complete loss of energy and lethargic feelings to where you cant even get up. I felt pretty damn good other than the fact that I cried like a little girl all day at the loss of my cat. Keep in mind I lost everything important to me a few days earlier and I was literally homeless, moneyless and didnt even know my fucking girlfriends cellphone number. Fuckin technology these days. you put your phone next to someone elses phone and you get their number, put thier name in and you never see their number again. So what I am getting to is it is now.... Day five, I spent the night in the hospital rather than going to a homeless shelter, yeah they gave me 10 mgs of percocet and 10mgs of flexeril and a scrip for another 20 5 mgspercs(which i Have no money to fill)and 15 10mgs of flexeril(no momney to fill)but I know for certain that didnt do shit. Its day five and I feel great(other than the pain I am in from the car accident). I am still taking about 1200 mgs of neurontin every 6 hours and tomorrow plan on cutting that down to 600 mgs every six hours depending on how i feel. I have tried to read into finding someone who had a hard time getting off neurontin but other than one dude who took a shitload for four years who said he experienced mild withdrawal symptoms I havent seen anything to make me think that getting off neurontin will be that hard. Am I gonna feel like shit when I stop taking it? Who knows, all i know is I felt bad for 7 fucking hours and it wasnt anything like previous times when I have had to kick because I coudlnt get any dope be it for financial reasons or dealer ran out. What the fuck right? Neurontin? who would have fucking guessed? I truly believe I am a good person and would never make shit up especially when it comes to kicking, which i truly believe is the devil himself ripping you a new asshole! Very few things in life could be worse than kicking cold turkey or even going on a methadone clinic which is much worse than a dope habit. So if you are on 60mgs+ of methadone I cant say this will work for you. If you are on a lot of methadone I recommend getting some heroin and doing that for about a week slowly tapering down to about .5 a day or less and then trying my method. So im done babbling, sorry to all you people who had to hear me rant and rave about pointless shit but I just wanted to put in all the details so their were no holes in my story. This is a serious issue that I believe many people are struggling with and I found a solution with a drug that is mainly given to epileptics for seizures. It has also been prescribed to some people for pain but is generally used for other reasons. I know there are tons of people out there that never believe they can get off opiates because they dont want to go through withdrawal symptoms, well, I found the solution. I found the way to kick opiates in 7 hours or less.(unless for some reason you have a worse habit than i did.) Hopefully in the future other people who try this method will reply with their success story and I will get credit for saving everyone from kicking....kidding(not really). Anyway thats my story and I am sticking to it. :2thumbsup:
Oh yeah I forgot to mention, the shit works fucking killer for pain management. Take it from a former pro snowboarder who did nothing but ride the park and compete in big air contests for 5 year. And yeah, I challenge anyone out there to tell me a sport or occupation that is harder on the body than riding a snowboard park all day everyday and competing in big air contests. Dont bother even saying football or some shit because if your gonna compare that with going 80 feet in distance and 20+ feet in the air all day everyday for four+ months out of the year than you dont know wtf your talking about. Just wanted to add this to anyone who is fearing getting off and being in pain, well, if it works for me who just was in such a bad accident that the frame of a M5 was bent than it should work for anyone. Once again, thats my story and I am sticking to it. If you dont believe me go to drugs.com and read the comments about ppl who use it for pain.
Last thing and then I am outtie.....if anyone needs info on how to get their doc to prescribe them seroquel and neurontin just email me. peace.
fuck seroquel and i kicked tha shit, although i want to do it every fucking day i feel like, physically i beat it, and mentally i guess for now..... I moved from NJ/PA area where my family lived, i went to Uni in Philly last year, and picked up a pretty serious dope and coke habit. Nothing like your 2 gram a day shit, but for me it was causing monetary and health issues. Moved to ATL on July 10th i believe and i had saved ONE bag of fire dope, and did it the first day i was here.....since then i have bought D only twice in Atlanta and Coke a couple times (got burned with some fake once, which had never happened to me before..) I KNOW there is fire powder and tar in the city, but so far the two different areas that i have tried HAVE had powder, which is a plus, idk if im interested in tar, but it hasnt been ANYWHERE near the quality of what i was getting up north. And also it keeps coming not in stamp bags but clear baggies. I think im not looking hard enough, but to be honest, with all the pain it has caused me, and some issues that happened recently, im not going to look any harder, if at all. Or at least try.
motocross all day everyday is much harder on the body... just wanted to take you up on that challenge
I quit smoking heroin one night when I was on shrooms. I had withdrawals but what the shrooms taught me was far more powerful. I made it through. Neurotonin probably does help with everything. But seraquel fuck that shit, its an atypical antipsychotic: those are NOT fun to be on trust me.
Umm, no? Guys it takes 7-12 days for recovery. you have to ween down slowly and be patient. smoking crack does not help you.
Those are 2 different things. Anyway, I wanted to say that Gabapentin has worked for me as well. I take it for neuropathy, but it works very, very well for opiate wd's. You could have done it without the Seroquel too. The dosage you mentioned is a lot higher than I've ever used though. The most I've taken when I've used it for wd's was around 2800-3200mg per day. Then after a week I'd taper down over about a 3 day period to my normal dose of 1200mg per day. Yeah, it works like a charm. It has side effects of it's own, though. Feeling really spaced out, kind of drowsy, that sort of thing. But you can get around and do things, sleep, no RLS, etc.
ya gabapentin is good for withdrawals. kickin for me isnt the issue, its staying away from something that is SO cheap, and feels SO good.
i want to help depends how deep you are but immodium is essencial to stop diarreah for me a shallow user that was enough i was on morphine and oxycodine for over a year after surgery doctors wouldve left me addicted if i didnt speak up i said i want to be weaned dr weaned me later i used recreationally and again severe deadly [as in really deathly] diarreah i took immodium a non prescription opiate without narcotic effects the rest i could handle emotionally however opiates on long term cause brain damage again can be healed depending on age time about methedone its not the route to go many tell me from experience more damafging than the heroin
You can ween off the methadone if you ween off not get high.. I was smoking and snorting 4-5 80's a day and weened off with 60 mg of methadone from 30mg to 20 to 10.. Cravings yes diarrhea was handled with 3 Imodium tablets other then that I'm fine and I've been doing opiates for 6 years this April.. You can wean off if you have the will some essentials and keep busy.. It's all mental in the end... Just remember you have balls your a man act like one stop being a pussy... That's what I tell myself at least.. Hope this helps...
Weaning down is probably the best route to take. WD's are very hard on your body. I'm wondering if part of the reason long term addicts look so bad is that they've gone through wd's so many times. It does take a certain amount of will power to wean down, and you need to do it slowly. The slower you do it the easier it will be.
Gabapentin rocks....it makes such a difference. Lyrica.....the "new and improved" gabapentin works even better imho
Happydude_60 I agree with you as well my post was just my view in it I hope it didn't come out rude to anyone that read my post I just see it in the way where if you use methadone or subs it's in a month tops cause no one wants to live the rest of there lives taking pills to clean up from pills.. Opioids it's a hard thing to kick in my opinion don't try them at all they'll ruin your life forever