Chemistry degree with questions on drugs synthesis and growth!

Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by smokeymcstoner, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. smokeymcstoner

    smokeymcstoner Guest

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    I have a degree in chemistry and I would like to think that I am very smart. I got an A in both of my organic chemistry courses and have a deep appreciation for psychedelic drugs. I have my own apartment and some cash to work with.

    The reason I am writing this thread is to get some advice on what drugs i could make in my apartment, what is the best cost to profit ratio for these drugs, what are some good techniques to use (please include links), and just some general knowledge, tips or insight into the subject!

    I have done some research myself. I would definitely like to make magic mushrooms! They seem easy, safe, and cost effective. I have also thought about making DMT but i heard that the bark was recently made illegal, but I know that DMT is in all living things so I'm sure there are many other ways to make it. Ive done some research into MDMA and it seems complex and costly until you start making some.

    All in all, just let me know what you guys think!
    if you would consider yourself an expert in the subject please also leave an email address so we can talk in a more direct way.

    Thanks all!
     
  2. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    You would know best if you really have a chem degree. But you can't make magic mushrooms, and I would think synthing Psilocybin would not be as cost effective as other things, you could grow them. Anyone including those with no chemistry knowledge can make DMT, your skills would best be suited to MDMA or if you really have skill and connections LSD. There are numerous synthases for these posted online.

    Usually those that can do this, don't have to ask. Make sure you actually know what your doing.
     
  3. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    TiHKAL, PiHKAL. Check those books out. They both offer guides on how to do some complex synthesis for many psychedelic substances. They should at least give you some ideas as of what you want to make.

    As for mushrooms, you can definitely grow some. It isn't very hard, and it is discreet. You don't need much organic chem for that though.
     
  4. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    I have heard TIKAL and PIKAL contain watched chemicals now. Things that you could get back then but not now. But the op should be able to see where he can make changes.
     
  5. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Oh I'm sure they do. Even back then I bet it would be hard to get your hands on some of those things. And getting all the lab equipment required for those synthesis isn't the easiest thing in the world either.

    But yeah, if you have your organic chemistry degrees you should be able to modify the reactions in order to produce what you need. That, or you should be able to figure out how to produce those reagents on your own. You'll probably have to end up going through some less than legal sources to get some things however.
     
  6. eatlysergicacid

    eatlysergicacid Creep in a T-Shirt

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    ITT "Chemistry major" wants to "make" magic mushrooms and DMT.
     
  7. AcidConspiracy

    AcidConspiracy Member

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    This.

    And note: 2 posts.

    Dont go and burn your parents house down with your "lab" and get put on the news, it makes it harder for people who know what they're doing to do it.
     
  8. EyesOfTheWorld420

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    Dmt can be synthesized, but it is much more widely available in plants that you can *extract* it from.

    So you wouldn't be "making" dmt...it's already there.

    And it is extremely easy to extract, you don't need a "degree" in anything. If you can make Kraft Mac and cheese you could probably handle extracting dmt.
     
  9. Synthetix

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    So a degree in chemistry and you can't synthesise your own drugs by now? You're really behind. Even people will no high school education can cook some potent drugs.

    Try a shake and bake methamphetamine process. Could blow your arm off. Or end up with some relatively impure d and l-isomer meth. Yummy. All you need is a box of ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, battery acid, a water bottle and rice. Doesn't that sound fun?

    Starting cooking drugs because you believe you have a understanding in how chemicals are created = you're going to have a bad time.
     
  10. stoner oxy80

    stoner oxy80 *"Senior~Stoned~Member"*

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    yeah..start with meth it,s about 16$ a gram to make (mabye less) and it,s MUCH safer than made out to be, to many dumbass,s try that don,t know what the hell there even mixing together. s-b is a start and it makes real good produt. but since you have some know how, an RP/I cook would be the way to go. check out totse2.com all kind of info there.
     
  11. prankster1590

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    LSD isn't so difficult. Extract LSA from HWR seeds or Morning glory seeds. Purify this and dry. Chlorinate the carboxylic acid group with POCL3, PCL5, SOCL2 and do a nucleophillic substitution with Dimethylamine. Purify with column chromatography. Make a salt of it with Fumaric, Maleic or Tartaric acid. Recrystrallize a few times with an approiate solvent.

    Never done it but it's easy chemistry.
     
  12. DrummingJoey

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    Yeah dude if you want to make drugs you won't find much help on HipForums to be honest. This website has a reputation for discussing drugs but for the most part we are hippies, not chemists. You're looking for a chef in the dining room.
     
  13. Newshoes123

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    Yo i have a chemistry degree and I started learning how to make shake and bake for reading sources on the internet before too long I was confident enough where I put a recipe together that I know would work ( - the water) this reaction is extremely safe to use and you can do it in your apartment providing you do some minor modifications with regards to ventilation it's like anything else some skill is required but as long as you follow safe practice techniques, use proper starting reactants (that is don't use Drano )always err on the side of caution--things do go wrong I understand that and having a fire extinguisher on hand is always a good idea. One can produce a very good final product
     
  14. Dgledfo

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    Chem degree doesn't mean anything, if you want to make money in the drug market, manufacturing is the easy part, getting it off without getting caught is the hard part. Whatever you do, don't tell anyone in your circle your plans.
     

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