"Nice" guys...

Women of Hip Forums, what have your experiences been with so called "nice guys"?

Now, I don't mean guys who are legitimately kind, but rather people who think that because they're nice, women should have sex with them. They also often constantly complain about being "friendzoned."


Do you know what I'm talking about?

 

lol Why are you siding with women on this topic? Are you so scared to be a man, or be seen as one not wanted by women, that you're willing to empathize with the feminine?

I'll say one thing: some guys soon learn what it takes to not be "friend-zoned" but why are date-able and acceptable personalities of the male constricted & scrutinized so much? Last I checked, the chic can be herself and almost do whatever she wants. Even throw a bitch fit, because after all, that's how women are.

Yet, the male is rarely given that much freedom. He must first prove himself as a confident alpha whatever. Open your eyes. Bitches run shit wild.

 

I'm siding with women in the sense that I can see why they wouldn't want an omega male who always wants to please them and walks on eggshells all the time.

I used to be a nice guy myself, so I know what it's like. Looking back, I can only cringe at how stupid I was being. You can still be yourself without being a nice guy -- it just involves changing who you are for the better.

 

'Nice Guys Bad Girls' would make for a good pop tune and music video.

 

Nice guys don't do sex, do they?

 

pretty sure this is a joke, but i think it's also a pretty good representation of how most women really do feel about it.

 

Nice guys are constantly lustful and want sex, but live in a perpetual state of frustration because they're too inept to get a girl in bed.

 

yes I know exactly what you're talking about.

I don't fuck those guys just because they try too hard.

 

It's pretty sad when the world thinks being nice is unattractive, uncool and people would rather run the other direction and be distant and dicks to each other in fear, of being labeled... a good person.

 

I think that you're missing the point here.

Nice guys in this case aren't just men who happen to be kind. This definition of the phrase refers to people who act WAY too nice because they think that girls will like them just for that. For example, they'll shower a woman with compliments and buy her flowers. On the first date.


To be fair, that can work -- but only if the man in question is extremely attractive.

 

Well they should use a different word, and a different image or connotation, 'cuz fuck, I'm genuinely nice/pleasant to peeps and I don't like that it makes me look bad. (or that it could).

And actually I do think that belief gets abused and taken so far that someone who is simply genuinely kind IS viewed as weak.

*I'm sure a little of it is me falling into the image trap, but it's because that image/aphorism is there in the first place.

 

Don't think us tough guys got it easy either.

I've been leaning against a store front with my derby pushed down on my forehead, flipping a coin over and over again and not one woman!

 

i didn't realize there were "nice guys" who actually took it to that extreme. sure there is a spectrum of "nice guy" behavior, but from what i've seen most people with the label get it just by not going out of their way to be a dick.

 

This thread describes me.

I have been really nice to a woman in hopes I would score some poon, but, alas, that has not happened. Now she will have to wait for the bus in the cold.

 

Try cocking your derby a little to the left and change up the kind of coin you're flipping. You'll be covered in wimminz in no time.

 

thanks tootz

 

this is one of those things that annoys me. by nature i'm not exactly "nice" in the sense that i compliment and such, but i'm definitely quiet and more or less deferential to everyone, men included. i try to be polite and pleasant. i'm certainly not an "alpha male".

but then i keep getting this message that i can't be a "pansy" or no woman will want to date me.

but i don't want to have to act like a tough guy just to get pussy.

but i don't want to not get pussy.

i just believe in respecting people in general.

what the fuck.

 

i don't want to have to work to get money.

but i don't want to not get money.

 

I know exactly what you mean. Some guys are only nice because they want to get in a girls pants. That's not really nice though, it's fake nice. Women see right through it. These same guys think a woman's a bitch just because she didn't fall for the nice guy routine. These same guys turn into assholes when you figure out they want to be more than friends and turn them down.

I'm much more comfortable when men,people in general really, make their intentions clear without trying to sugar coat it or kiss my ass to get something.

 

funny, but a total misread of basically everything i said...