Boss can't control himself, woman loses job, Iowa supreme courts says, OK.

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  1. drumminmama

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  2. RooRshack

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    With the things that he said to her, I don't see how that's NOT sexual harassment, which, then, clearly should tie into her being fired.
     
  3. This is so, so fucking wrong on every level! And as for the pastor agreeing that firing the woman would be the best solution? ......................well! Woman is obviously the spawn of the devil sent to earth to get happily married, god fearing men into trouble! ;)
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Well, he didnt fire her until the wife found out about the texts.

    Sounds like she is the one in charge. What would the little voice inside the wifes head be saying - something along the lines of get rid of the skank before she takes away the kids college funds
     
  5. MikeE

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    Consider a similar situation.

    An employee is fired so that the wife's relative can be hired. Unfair, but legal. No gender discrimination, a male employee would have been fired. A boss can fire someone, without cause, to please his wife, without it being illegal discrimination.

    However, in this case, women employees are more likely to draw the wife's attention than male employees. If I had enough money to hire a federal lawyer, I'd ask about that. (To win such a case, one might have to find a pattern of behavior.

    I can only agree with the articles last line, "just because something’s lawful doesn’t make it right. "
     
  6. RooRshack

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    That would be a conflict of interest. I'm pretty sure it would be illegal.
     
  7. MikeE

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    What is a conflict of interest?
    Making one's wife happy as one of the goals of a privately owned business?
    Conflicts of interest aren't illegal. They may be poor business practice. (They often lead to illegal activity.) But they aren't illegal.
     
  8. drumminmama

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    On a federal level, a person in a superior position in the workforce cannot use the power of position to entice sexual behaviour. (Harrassment)

    So why is it legal for a guy to have sex as a reason for firing an employee?

    I guarantee you if the dentist had a male, or a woman to whom he was not attracted (and didn't trigger wifely insecurity), the person would still have the job.

    I'd say firing to give the job to a family member is not quite the same, since the matter of the boss not being able to keep a professional boundary in place isn't in play.
     
  9. AmyBeachGirl

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    This is dumfounding, it made the news here in Australia and even the newsreaders were shaking their heads...
     
  10. babyjay

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    boyfriend says:

    well if he knows its gonna be a problem, with her being incredibly hot, then either they should bang, or she should be fired.





    i think he should fuck his wife or something, get it off his mind.
     
  11. scratcho

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    The 'PROBLEM" was in his brain,not hers. Yet she is fired because of his brain PROBLEM? I've heard it all,now. What a dumb fucker. At least he's been exposed for the moron he is. I imagine he thinks "she asked for it"-I mean,how dare she look attractive!!
     
  12. MikeE

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    I doubt that he blames the ex-worker. I bet the boss is thinking "What do I have to do to get my wife off my back."
     
  13. drumminmama

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    Lets start a new meme: Iowa Burqua.
    The continued assumption that all men are too weak to be ethical and therefor it is the fault of all women. And we get judges to back that up.
     
  14. MikeE

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    The OP story is one of those examples where something unfair (the firing of the woman to please the wife) got explained with a stupid excuse ("I can't control myself").

    But, if we are going to inflate it into something significant, it seems to me...

    If it is Philip Morris's fault that I've been smoking cigarettes for 40 years, then wouldn't it be the woman's fault that this guy failed in sexual/office ethics?
     
  15. Oreocookiemadness

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    This boss needs to be tasered...right in his crotch.
     
  16. drumminmama

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    But it isn't PM's fault you smoke. Even though they engage in active attraction advertising.

    The dental assistant did not.
    There is an expectation of professional dress and decorum in an office.
     
  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Still all started with wifely insecurity. Take the wife out of the equation and they either would have had a fling, lived happily ever after or she would have filed for sexual harrassment. There is no scenario where she would have gotten fired without him having a wife.

    Its the WIFEs fault she got fired
     
  18. MikeE

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    ^^^
    No, its the wife's parents' fault, for raising a suspicious daughter!

    Just because there is an explanation for behavior does not remove responsibility for that behavior.

    Consider:

    The boss fired the worker, its his responsibility.

    The boss was motivated to fire the worker because of his wife's insecurity, therefore its not the bosses fault, its the wife's fault.

    The wife was motivated to insecurity because of her upbringing, therefore its not the wife's fault, it's the parent-in-law's fault.

    The father-in-law was working too many long hours to raise his daughter properly, therefore its not his fault, its the father-in-law's ex-bosses fault.

    How far back in this silly chain of causation does one have to go before someone takes responsibility for their own action without casting themselves as being tossed about by the winds of irresistible influences.

    It's the bosses fault that the worker got fired. Even though the wife influenced him, no fault devolves on the wife.
     
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    Well, Iowa is part of the Bible Belt. Therefore, the judge's decision does not surprise me.
     
  20. scratcho

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    Cigarettes don't work for a living. Inanimate objects. The employee did work and did a good job. The man is an idiot for claiming he is weak as to controlling himself around her. Sounds like this comes from the middle east ,where it's been proven men can't control themselves around women. I hope she sues the shit out of him.
     
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