27 Dead in Mass Shooting at Elementary School in Newton, CT

Believe me when I say that if he was still alive, and spilled his guts completely about it, the media wouldn't publish what he said, unless it supported whatever political agenda that particular media outlet wanted to propagandize, and nothing more.

What have we learned about the motivation of Jared Lee Loughner with regard to his motives? The Aurora shooter? The Portland Mall shooter? The MIT shooter?

No the media politicizes it - imbues it with agendas - fills in the blanks - dismisses it with madness - and NEVER addresses the social illness epidemic that is that root of these evil acts. This kind of thing will happen again, and again, and again. It's got nothing to do with guns. It's got everything to do with a society that has become so sick, lonely, selfish and hopeless that it's literally trying to bring itself to an end.

 

A little something to ponder, I grew up in a neighborhood where all males and many females over the age of 14 had at least one or more guns and there were no 'mass shootings' of note untill Charlie Whitman the infamus 'Eagle Scout' flipped out in the 'Texas Tower'. Now I live in Arizona where no permit is required to carry even concealed and the only major shooting we've had lately was clearly political.

What nobody seems to wish to consider is that what we are seeing is the coming of age of the 'no spanking generation'. In my generation we were raised by hand or by the belt and learned early on that our actions had consequences.

 

The U.S. has not been a peaceful nation , and this likewise
has been an act of war . Be wary of the feds , their relation to
war is institutionalized . Obtusely , they may well tweak the story
so that the Peace we need is not really spoken of .

The library director just lowered our flag to half-mast . Why
are you doing that ? , I asked .

Oh , because of the children .

Maybe you just leave it like that for a long time ,
and maybe longer ?

Yes .

 

I think that these types of behaviors are the result of nature, environment, and opportunity

absent a shift in nature or opportunity, I can't help but conclude that the increase in frequency of mass shootings has a social/environmental cause

 

Al Queda doesn't need to attack American and cause fear/panic. We do a good job of doing it to ourselves.

 

apparently, studies have shown that children who are physically disciplined are more likely to become violent, not less

it's not clear that the killer in this case, or other mass killers were not physically disciplined as children.

 

yes, journalists are people. and I'm sure that many have noble motivations. good journalism can make the world a better place

however, journalism is also a business, and imho, we've seen the ethical standards of the media go straight down the toilet in recent decades.

pretty much everything that I see coming out of the mass media these days seems to be motivated by

a) profits

or

b) a political agenda

I didn't see the actual event, but I was present in a subway station when a man fell on the tracks and was trapped underneath a train.

as I exited the station, a reporter and a cameraman were coming down an escalator:

reporter, on his phone: "a guy fell on the tracks and is trapped underneath a train!"

camerman: "yes!!!!"

I was really disgusted to see how obviously gleeful they were.

the reason why "if it bleeds, it leads" in the media is because it makes money. the media came out with a lot of false reports about these shootings because they wanted to get the story first. that's about money, not good journalism

far worse, there is apparently reason to believe that media coverage encourages copy-cat killings

they're aware of that. apparently, the $ means more to them though

 

Of course the studies showed that. They were skewed by the Anti-spanking groups that funded them. I'm 100% with Ranger on this. It's amazing that no one I knew and got spanked grew up to be a mass murderer. In addition, everyone I grew up with had a fully stocked arsenal......... No one ever got shot or shot anyone.

 

this whole generation is skewed up

 

I think physically disciplined is when your dad kicks your ass, not some homo erotic spanking

people forget that the second amendment to the constituion was made in 1791, the definition of a gun back then is so different than what it is today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho-QCmnNMl8"]How to fire a Brown Bess musket - English Heritage - YouTube
it would be pretty hard to have a school shooting with a musket

 

do you have an actual evidence that those studies are skewed, or that they were funded by "anti-spanking groups"? sounds like you pulled this conclusion out of your ass rather than it being evidence based.

any evidence that the killer here or other mass shooters were not spanked or physically disciplined?

yes, one can be spanked and have guns and not be a mass murderer. the conclusions that one can reach based on these alone, however, are limited

"Back in my day, we didn't have

select one:
[cell phones/ violent video games/ on-line pornography/ childhood obesity/ gay marriage/ a high divorce rate/ obama as president/ lenient no-spanking childhoods/ power rangers/ teletubbies/ gangum style/ salad bars]

Now we have [same as selected from above].

Clearly, [same as selected from above] caused these shootings"

I certainly won't rule out the "no-spanking" theory of mass shootings. however, I'd like to see some evidence

 

no one I know that didn't get spanked grew up to be a mass murderer. What does that prove?

not spanking children could contribute to the problem, but I think parenting methods overall would be more to blame. Most parents don't spank anymore, true. The divorce rates are also higher. Most households can't afford to have a parent stay at home with the child anymore so children spend a lot of time away from home in daycares. Single parents are more common. TV and video games are often used as babysitters. Parents often let even younger children play violent video games. Children don't play outside as much anymore. The education system is slowly elimating the arts from the curriculum. Families are more likely to move away from their extended family, thus eliminating a solid support network. Children aren't raised exactly like they were in the 40s, 50s, and 60s - true enough. I think blaming it on the lack of corporal punishment is oversimplifying things.

 

Untill just a very few years ago every study showed that bumble bees couldn't fly. However if you looked around yourself and had the courage to believe your own eyes over an academic 'study'.......

 

Have any evidence of yours? I don't see any quotes.

 

... therefore let's not believe any so-called "scientific study", or their ridiculous conclusions, like, "germs cause disease", "the earth is round", "humans evolved from apes", or "smoking causes cancer". It's all ridiculous!

btw, can you cite the actual study where they claimed that bumble bees couldn't fly?

 

I can research and provide references, if you insist.

 

Go ahead and waste your time. It's all bullshit anyway.

 

If you could make it worth my time. I've seen it is a well known mathmatical proof which negated the need for 'studies'.

What's thar old adage about liars, statistics, politicians......

 

http://www.caltech.edu/content/deciphering-mystery-bee-flight

 

in other words, scientists knew damn well that they could fly, they just didn't know how they could. there was no scientific study concluding that bees could not fly. nor can one conclude that science and scientific studies are invalid based on this.