Illuminati

The British Royal Family isn't even "British" -- they're German. Their original family name was Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. They changed their name to Windsor during WWI when the British were fighting against Germany.

 

There is an old Zion chapel near where I work!

 

I thought we were all related if you go far back enough!

 

I did the backwards thing and got the N.S.A. I guess some one had some fun creating that redirection . http://www.nsa.gov/ You might check out Alister Crowley , and the Golden Dawn . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_dawn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alister_Crowley illuminati is for the illuminted one or enlightned one . desert rat

 

I feel like people walk around with blinders on. They accept the things they are told and they do not question it. It bothers me because I feel like there are a LOT of things that are complete bullshit but people just believe it anyway! And yes it is shoved in people's faces and they still do nothing. Christmas isn't about Jesus's birthday, Jesus wasn't even born until the spring! And yet people are happy to spend thousands of dollars on crap they will forget about by next year, put up their Christmas tree, which is actually a pagan tradition but the majority definitely don't know/won't accept that. I think the illuminati works so well because 'they' (if they really do control media, education, etc) have trained us to be selfish and think only of ourselves, so when we are faced with something we know is wrong, it's easier for us to justify the means if it has something to do with our own interest. It's sad. If any illuminati are watching, reading, I am not a sheep and refuse to believe what I'm told. I'm not even sure if I believe there is an illuminati.

 

In agreement with the above poster , most people dont want to think for there selvs . They want others to hand them a package of what to believe . desert rat

 

All systems-whether they are religious, legal, political, whatever- are about control. There doesn't need to be any debate about that, surely. Accordingly, the ability to manipulate (or even better, to develop) systems equates to the ability to control.

You can trace that through history. Religion is no more than a controlling system with the apparent authority of whatever deity is appropriate to the religion in question. Political systems are the same. Even economic systems have become control mechanisms.

The latest one is conspiracy theorists. All the people running around calling "conspiracy!!" about everything from the moon landing to Kennedy's assassination and the so-called war on terror are themselves control victims. There is little truth because truth, like sunset, is a matter of perspective.

There are absolute physical laws, yes, but almost everything else is a belief sytsem....

The Illuminati are no different. Another bunch of people who found a way to control the masses. The only reason the churches are pissed off about it is that they didn't think of it first.

 

I've been meaning to comment on this, as it popped up in another thread.

MY view is that there certainly are "conspiracies". Probably most governments in the World would collapse if someone dished all the dirt on it. Thats just the way things are.

But the idea its all one formal "Black Corporation" is wrong. I've looked at the various members of these groups eg CFR, Bilderbergs etc. Some (a very small number) of them I know, or met, or have been family friends with.

Some are pretty innocuous. Some I think were recruited to be manipulated as there was certain shit hanging over their heads.

Then I look at others in the groups, who I don't know. And I know it was solely down to who their great, great, great (20x) grandfather was. Or how devious they were. I know these people have nothing but contempt for the 6 billion they supposedly represent. Its all a game for them. They certainly try and permeate every area of human life. But they only get so far. Its a dynamic tension between various factions, which do change... slowly.

Ultimately, I think if most of the "conspiracies" were unveiled, most people would say "well its not that surprising really".Even tho they'd be completely outraged.

 

Masons are not devil worshipers

 

as is the americal legistaltive exchange council, and whatever else THEY pretend to be, the only thing they worship is little green pieces of paper with pictures of dead presidents on them.