Was America behind 9/11

ForgetThisEmail · Sep 11, 2012

It comes down to the evil and the good and which side we are really on.

Here is my site about my 3 days at WTC helping to remove bodies etc etc from the site after the planes crashed.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080118134747/hometown.aol.com/danielegrl/myhomepage/news-crisis.html

The following is a Quote from that site i wrote after i left 9/11 / WTC

"""Finally, the enemy is all around us. It isn't a country. It isn't an ethnicity. It isn't a religion. It is simply ,,, good ,,, verses ,,, evil.

" I ...have ...done ....All ...that ...I ....could. Seen ..... the .... Evil .... And .... The .... Good ... and ... I .... am .... crying.
" Doctor,, in ,,, my ,,, eyesssssss etc etc etc... """"

Zzap · Nov 4, 2012

PeaceInTime said:

Countries do horrible things to their people all the time...?

Ya know, like America and blacks few years back..
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you have to keep in mind that people are delusional!

Timeline:U.S. Government's medical experiments on citizens
Source: http://www.naturalnews.com/019189.html

1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, infects human subjects with cancer cells. He later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients.

1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.

1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occurred within poverty-stricken black populations.

1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to combat the disease. Nazi doctors later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to defend their own actions during the Holocaust.

1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen. The experiments continue until 1945 and made use of Seventh Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs rather than serve on active duty.

1943 In response to Japan’s full-scale germ warfare program, the U.S. begins research on biological weapons at Fort Detrick, MD.

1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and lewisite.

1945 Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State Department, Army intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi scientists and offer them immunity and secret identities in exchange for work on top-secret government projects in the United States.

1945 “Program F” is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). This is the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoride, which was the key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of the most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is found, causes marked adverse effects to the central nervous system but much of the information is squelched in the name of national security because of fear that lawsuits would undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs.

1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical experiments. In order to allay suspicions, the order is given to change the word “experiments” to “investigations” or “observations” whenever reporting a medical study performed in one of the nation’s veteran’s hospitals.

1947 Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission issues a secret Document 07075001, January 8, 1947, stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects.

1947 The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.

1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates.

1950 In an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Francisco. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.

1951 Department of Defense begins open-air tests using disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.

1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.

1953 Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.

1953 CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven-year research program designed to produce and test drugs and biological agents that would be used for mind control and behavior modification. Six of the sub-projects involved testing the agents on unwitting human beings.

1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, releases bacteria withdrawn from the Army’s biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Florida.

1955 Army Chemical Corps continues LSD research, studying its potential use as a chemical incapacitating agent. More than 1,000 Americans participate in the tests, which continue until 1958.

1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over Savannah, GA and Avon Park, Florida. Following each test, Army agents posing as public health officials test victims for effects.

1958 LSD is tested on 95 volunteers at the Army’s Chemical Warfare Laboratories for its effect on intelligence.

1960 The Army Assistant Chief-of-Staff for Intelligence (ACSI) authorizes field-testing of LSD in Europe and the Far East. Testing of the European population is code-named Project THIRD CHANCE; testing of the Asian population is code named Project DERBY HAT.

1965 CIA and Department of Defense begin Project MKSEARCH, a program to develop a capability to manipulate human behavior through the use of mind-altering drugs.

1965 Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia are subjected to dioxin, the highly toxic chemical component of Agent Orange used in Viet Nam. The men are later studied for development of cancer, which indicates that Agent Orange had been a suspected carcinogen all along.

1966 CIA initiates Project MKOFTEN, a program to test the toxicological effects of certain drugs on humans and animals.
1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger thro

ughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop light bulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

1967 CIA and Department of Defense implement Project MKNAOMI, successor to MKULTRA and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons.

1968 CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.

1969 Dr. Robert MacMahan of the Department of Defense requests from congress $10 million to develop, within 5 to 10 years, a synthetic biological agent to which no natural immunity exists.

1970 Funding for the synthetic biological agent is obtained under H.R. 15090. The project, under the supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army’s top-secret biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised that molecular biology techniques are used to produce AIDS-like retroviruses.

1970 United States intensifies its development of “ethnic weapons” (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA.

1975 The virus section of Fort Detrick’s Center for Biological Warfare Research is renamed the Fredrick Cancer Research Facilities and placed under the supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI). It is here that a special virus cancer program is initiated by the U.S. Navy, purportedly to develop cancer-causing viruses. It is also here that retro virologists isolate a virus to which no immunity exists. It is later named HTLV (Human T-cell Leukemia Virus).

1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.

1978 Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted by the CDC, begin in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Ads for research subjects specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men.

1981 First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, triggering speculation that AIDS may have been introduced via the Hepatitis B vaccine.

1985 According to the journal Science (227:173-177), HTLV and VISNA, a fatal sheep virus, are very similar, indicating a close taxonomic and evolutionary relationship.

1986 According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are highly similar and share all structural elements, except for a small segment, which is nearly identical to HTLV. This leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have been linked to produce a new retrovirus to which no natural immunity exists.

1986 A report to Congress reveals that the U.S. Government’s current generation of biological agents includes: modified viruses, naturally occurring toxins, and agents that are altered through genetic engineering to change immunological character and prevent treatment by all existing vaccines.

1987 Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 locations and universities around the nation.

1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and Hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an “experimental” measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental.

1994 With a technique called “gene tracking,” Dr. Garth Nicolson at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, TX discovers that many returning Desert Storm veterans are infected with an altered strain of Mycoplasma incognitus, a microbe commonly used in the production of biological weapons. Incorporated into its molecular structure is 40 percent of the HIV protein coat, indicating that it had been man-made.

1994 Senator John D. Rockefeller issues a report revealing that for at least 50 years the Department of Defense has used hundreds of thousands of military personnel in human experiments and for intentional exposure to dangerous substances. Materials included mustard and nerve gas, ionizing radiation, psychochemicals, hallucinogens, and drugs used during the Gulf War.

1995 U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese war criminals and scientists who had performed human medical experiments salaries and immunity from prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare research.

1995 Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.

1996 Department of Defense admits that Desert Storm soldiers were exposed to chemical agents.

1997 Eighty-eight members of Congress sign a letter demanding an investigation into bioweapons use and Gulf War Syndrome.

Shouldn’t a government such as this just be PUT TO DEATH?
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but trust me! scouts honor! america had nothing to do with 911! honest! LOL

KenzieLPark · Nov 8, 2012

I believe the papers warning of those attacks sat on the desk in the oval office since the Clinton years, that part is common knowledge.

The Bush "Regime" were and still are business giants, a regime that is still technically in office due to his flunkies in congress.
During those years Bush gave Rumsfeld a defense budget that would be able to conquer the world.
Halliburton got paid to rebuild those countries we destroyed, however they never did rebuild. They would get paid, set up a fence around the property, buy the raw materials, and then leave the site with the materials still sitting there to this day.

I believe 9/11 was, as horrible as it was to the public to watch, a business venture for our politicians.

Still Kicking · Nov 11, 2012

I believe that any government is capable of any act it decides it needs to take, regardless of it's mandate. Given that all governments are nothing more than tools for big money interests, anything is possible.
The oil interests needed a way to get into the oil fields in Iraq, the simplest way to do that is to stir up public opinion by making everyone think we were attacked by terrorists who were the tools of the regimes over there that would not deal with them. The people here, mostly ignorant and apathetic, seldom question anything beyond when Walmart will have the next shipment of Cheetos in, since they were out of them that last time they went shopping, and the big game is on this Sunday.

RetiredHippie · Nov 12, 2012

No.

odonII · Nov 12, 2012

Still Kicking said:

The oil interests needed a way to get into the oil fields in Iraq, the simplest way to do that is to stir up public opinion by making everyone think we were attacked by terrorists who were the tools of the regimes over there that would not deal with them.
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Can you (or anybody) clear up this issue once and for all: who actually has control over Iraq's oilfields? How much more oil has flowed into the US (or anywhere else) since 2003? Has oil dependence increased or decreased in the US?

storch · Nov 12, 2012

Sure. I believe that the same people who brought you 9/11 and the Iraq war actually controls Iraq's oil fields.

ForgetThisEmail · Nov 12, 2012

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odonII · Nov 12, 2012

storch said:

Sure. I believe that the same people who brought you 9/11 and the Iraq war actually controls Iraq's oil fields.
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...and who would they be then? ...be specific and add evidence, if possible. Thanks.

Still Kicking · Nov 12, 2012

odonII said:

Can you (or anybody) clear up this issue once and fr all: who actually has control over Iraq's oilfields? How much more oil has flowed into the US (or anywhere else) since 2003? Has oil dependence increased or decreased in the US?
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You can start with these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7t_u641NyM
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/who+controls+iraqs+oil/1838667.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/iraq-oil
http://www.aljazeera.com/focus/2009/06/20096288505111580.html

How much oil flows is not the issue. It is the control of it which controls the prices.
Obviously, there are no official documents available that confirm the reason why we invaded Iraq, other than the so called weapons of mass destruction which was a bull shit reason in anyone's book.
Also obviously, it takes some leaps of logic to connect the dots, since no government is going to admit oil was the reason for the invasion. All we have is gleaning what is being said at government levels and putting things together. And, also obviously, it is big money interests that run the world. That should be obvious given the level of lobbying done by those interests. If lobbying is nothing more than buying what they want, then what is it? It is nothing more than legal bribery.
So, no one is going to be able to provide direct proof. No one can when it comes to government that have little or no "transparency" ( I love these little sayings people come up with, it all sounds so James Bondish) to the people they supposedly represent. Freedom of information act requests are so redacted that they make no sense at all. Conspiracy theories will continue until governments are not allowed to have secrets any longer, which in my opinion they do not need to have, all their actions should be open, including those with foreign governments.
The links provided are just a few readily available on the Net on this subject, so it takes some time to glean the answers. The answers being, of course, who is working now to control the oil, that should tell us who was behind the invasion. Really, it does not take a lot of imagination to see that no one was really going to get upset over a petty dictator getting his ass kicked, so it was a logical place to invade to obtain control over that resource, especially given the ridiculous reasons provided by the government for it. Weapons of mass destruction, HAH!

odonII · Nov 12, 2012

Thanks. There was some great info' in those links.

Understanding the Kurdistan Production Sharing Contracts

KRG: Kurdistan Regional Government http://www.krg.org/?l=12

2008:

Half of the oilfields are in the Shia south and most of the rest are in the north around Kirkuk.

The recently-opened oilfield is in the area controlled by the Kurdish regional government near Irbil. Iraq's cheap-to-extract and easy-to-refine crude could make the nation rival Saudi Arabia as the world's top oil earner.

2009:

On June 30 major companies - including Exxon, Shell, BP and Total - will gather at Iraq's oil ministry in Baghdad for a two-day meeting to take part in the first bidding round for oil service contracts.

"Based on the constitution, there is a clause that says oil and gas is the property of the Iraqi people and the central government is responsible for the budget. So the Iraqi budget is based on oil and gas revenues. How can the central government plan without having control of oil and gas resources?"

Nevertheless, the KRG has pushed ahead and signed dozens of oil contracts with foreign companies.

Interestingly, the world's biggest oil companies, Exxon, Shell, BP and Chevron, have avoided signing contracts with the KRG.

Under this arrangement, international oil firms will not receive a share of Iraq's oil but they will be working in the country for the next 20 years with a 75 per cent stake in the operation. of northern Iraq which is controlled by the Kurdistan Regional Government.

The oil revenues will all go to the federal government and the KRG will receive its 17 per cent share of the national budget to manage its region.

Al-Shahristani, however, insists: "Any contracts for field development that is not approved by the federal government of Iraq has no standing with the Iraqi government and the oil companies have no right to work on Iraqi territory."

The pipeline politics are likely to continue unless a deal is reached between the two parties.

2011:

Exxon, based in Irving, Tex., and the United States’ largest petroleum company, had become the first major international oil operator to sign a contract in the Kurdistan region — a move the company has neither confirmed nor denied.

If Exxon did indeed sign a deal in Kurdistan, it is wading into a central controversy that has dogged Iraq since the American invasion.

Oil has long been the heart of Iraq’s wealth, and the invasion threw control of the rich reserves into question, exacerbating longstanding enmity between the Kurds and other Iraqis. Under President George W. Bush, the passage of an oil law to split revenues was considered a crucial benchmark to bring long-term peace to Iraq.

2012:

As part of the Kurdistan Regional Government’s ongoing transparency initiative, the Ministry of Natural Resources is putting all signed production sharing contracts (PSCs) for oil and gas in the Kurdistan Region into the public domain, the ministery posted a statement on its website(KRG.org)
The move, announced today by Minister of Natural Resources Ashti Hawrami, means that the PSCs, their attachments and amendments are now available to read online at the government website.
Dr Hawrami said, “The Kurdistan Region Oil and Gas Council, headed by Prime Minister Barham Salih, has decided to take the next step in implementing our policy of transparency and commitment to freedom of information in Kurdistan’s oil and gas sector, in line with the Region’s oil and gas law of 2007.”

http://www.krg.org/a/d.aspx?a=41567&l=12&s=010000
http://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk...d-on-production-sharing-contracts--33424.html

odonII · Nov 13, 2012

2035

Oil-drilling boom puts US in global driving seat
America is expected to become the largest crude oil producer in the world by 2020, overtaking Saudi Arabia and Russia.

It is expected to reduce its imports from 10million barrels a day to about 4million barrels within ten years, the International Energy Agency forecast.
It will become self-sufficient in about 2035 as a boom in shale gas output and tougher mileage standards for cars squeeze out imports.
It is ‘a dramatic reversal of the trend seen in most other energy-importing countries’, the IEA said.
‘Energy developments in the US are profound and their effect will be felt well beyond North America and the energy sector.’
Despite the rising use of low-carbon energy sources, huge subsidies will keep fossil fuels ‘dominant in the global energy mix’ for years, it added.
'The recent rebound in U.S. oil and gas production, driven by upstream technologies that are unlocking light tight oil and shale gas resources, is spurring economic activity - with less expensive gas and electricity prices giving industry a competitive edge.'
IEA Chief Economist Fatih Birol told a news conference in London he believed the United States would overtake Russia as the biggest gas producer by a significant margin by 2015.
By 2017, it would become the world's largest oil producer, he said.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/917746-oil-drilling-boom-puts-us-in-global-driving-seat#ixzz2C6Fo0hsK

ForgetThisEmail · Nov 13, 2012

odonII said:

2035

Oil-drilling boom puts US in global driving seat
America is expected to become the largest crude oil producer in the world by 2020, overtaking Saudi Arabia and Russia.

It is expected to reduce its imports from 10million barrels a day to about 4million barrels within ten years, the International Energy Agency forecast.
It will become self-sufficient in about 2035 as a boom in shale gas output and tougher mileage standards for cars squeeze out imports.
It is ‘a dramatic reversal of the trend seen in most other energy-importing countries’, the IEA said.
‘Energy developments in the US are profound and their effect will be felt well beyond North America and the energy sector.’
Despite the rising use of low-carbon energy sources, huge subsidies will keep fossil fuels ‘dominant in the global energy mix’ for years,
Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/917746-oil-drilling-boom-puts-us-in-global-driving-seat#ixzz2C6Fo0hsK
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