Amanda Todd Suicide, Its Effects On Internet Culture

Discussion in 'Mental Health' started by DrummingJoey, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. Comfortablynumb11

    Comfortablynumb11 Member

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    You know I'd think people would have something better to do with their time. I mean I am all for dark humor and all but from what I hear the poor girls dead and some people still cant just shut the fuck up, cause they have to try and be 'funny'. Yeah I don't know man the world can be a fucked up place.
     
  2. Karen_J

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    13 is too young to be posting on a site where your actions can have life-long consequences, and you can interact with adults or strangers. You don't yet have the maturity or judgment to deal with the serious situations that can come up. When I was 13, I probably said some stupid shit to other kids my age, but I doubt if anybody remembers any of it now. There's no permanent record. That's the way it needs to be.

    Was it only a topless shot that started all this? If so, I have a serious problem with a simple nipple pic being labeled as child pornography. Some girls that age go with their families to topless beaches, and it isn't a big deal. The real problem is with people who make a huge controversy out of basic anatomy, especially nipples. Yeah, some guys really get off on this, but they also get off on bare legs. We're not going back to 1915, when women couldn't even show their ankles in public.

    Prudes love to feel like they have power over others, and the internet has become another tool for them to use, to hold the rest of us accountable to their standards. Somebody has to stand up to them.
     
  3. windy

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  4. DrummingJoey

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    I absolutely do not support those actions. The name they osted is 99% likely to not be the guy, and they are just going to ruin another person's life for no reason. Another example of the failures of crowd dynamics.
     
  5. windy

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    You are absolutely right drummingjoey. I apologize and have deleted my post :)
     
  6. 1r0n_0x1d3

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    It may or may not be the guy but he is a pedo . They found his post online on forums about underage girls.
     
  7. PlacidDingo

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    Wonderful OP DrummingJoey, gives detail and puts things on wider context.

    Agree with misuse of the term troll, this is harassment and cruelty.

    It's disappointing that some people have had the first reaction of trying to justify the mans action. The onus of responsibility in an interaction between child and adult is on the adult.
     
  8. Piaf

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    This isn't even the issue.
    A prude didn't do this, a sick pervert did.
    Anyways, shouldn't he be held responsible in some way...?

    I feel really sorry for the girl, it's so sad.
     
  9. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    He most likely will be held responsible, but sending a lynch mob to his house isn't the proper way to approach jt.
     
  10. Karen_J

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    Let's not leave the parents out of the equation. They were the ones who made the original decision that it was okay for their 13 year old to be on Facebook, and to be given a lot of freedom in how she went about it. In hindsight, this was not a good decision.

    You have to judge any decision by its end result.

    If a 13 year old girl was allowed to regularly sneak into a bar or nightclub alone, with her parents' knowledge, would there not be a general consensus that her parents were being irresponsible? Is the internet any safer or better than a nightclub? It's time for parents of teenagers to wise up.

    He probably broke some laws, but I don't know enough of the details to say more about him. Obviously, he's a bad person.

    I'm more interested in the bigger picture. Bad things like this happen regularly to young people online, and something needs to change. Otherwise, the pattern repeats itself forever, because there will always be bad people online.

    I put some of the blame on Facebook. They should enforce a higher age limit, if they aren't going to have enough moderators on their staff to keep an eye out for things going in bad directions. They also need to set up more tools and options for removing and blocking unwanted things from your wall.

    But my mind keeps going back to the parents. Do you remember being 13? When I was that age, I don't recall anyone in my peer group having any maturity at all, or having any ability to handle random situations that come up in the adult world. We all needed to be under constant adult supervision, and the world was safer then than it is now. The parents have to be in charge, and they have to know what's going on.
     
  11. Fingermouse

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    Just a child :(
     
  12. PlacidDingo

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    Facebook doesn't make grown men harass young girls. Of course parents have responsibilities regarding their children but ultimately, in an interaction between child and adult, the onus of responsibility is on the adult.
     
  13. Karen_J

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    Your post is pointless -- completely out of touch with the real world. Bad people online aren't going to simply go away or choose to act better, and it's unacceptable for parents to say "I don't need to do anything about this, because the main responsibility is on other people." That's how we got in the current situation.
     
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    Anonymous (origins in 4chans /b/) doxed the idiots that leaked/tweeted her autopsy photos. Many Anons were quite pissed that even in death Amanda was being victimized.

    Bullying, trolling, whatever you want to call it. When did cruelty become cool?
    Somewhere along the way it has become funny, or "cool" to fuck with people to the point they lose their mind then society says that the victim was not "strong enough".

    I think we need to take a long hard look at the "trolls" and bullies and leave their victims alone.
     
  16. odonII

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    Where did you get this info' from?
     
  17. Lynnbrown

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    I not only think we shouldn't leave the parents out of this, as a parent, I pretty much hold the parents responsible. Surely they knew their daughter wasn't strong enough to handle the bullying tormentors. They moved, FGS! Yet, they seemed unable to control her persistently getting on the internet...I don't understand this.

    About fb...these kids get on there and say they are any age they want. Being kids, they are basically never honest and the vast majority get on there with the parent's approval, which is another thing I don't understand. Why so many parents are so willing for their children to grow up way ahead of time is beyond me. Childhood is short enough.

    This world seems to be filled with sorry-ass parents.
     
  18. Asmodean

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    Uhm your post is pointless. Especially the first one in this thread. Wtf, this is not an issue about prudes. Talk about your issues in the right thread.
     
  19. RichellieXO

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    Just like how everyone else got the other info. No on actually knows the truth but it is true about her flashing boys repeativly and having sex with a boy at age 13.
    I think instead of people focusing on one single girl that noone knows the truth about we shpuld focus on sucide in general and the targets of it.
    Bullying isnt right.
    People that are being bullied need to realize the only reason they are being bullied is because the bully is trying to make them selfs feel better.
    People need not to be so touchy because in tye end the only opinion that matters is gods.
    Stop trying to fit in with what your not maybe
    Stand up for yourself.
    Stand up for other victims.
    My opinion.
     
  20. odonII

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    If I knew that I wouldn't have asked.
     
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