Modern wheat a "perfect, chronic poison," doctor says

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  1. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Speaking of corn, I heard someone say on TV that the carbon in our bodies is mostly from corn. Later I was thinking that doesn't sound right because I'm sure someone who's eliminated all corn products has the same amount of carbon plus all sugars are carbon, carbon is the only solid element in sugar (carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen). Kind of off topic and being a sweets lover, how can pure sugar be bad for you when all it is basically is carbon and water? It's like the freaking essence of life!
     
  2. Man Yellow

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    Yeah, but you digest the inside of the kernel. The thing you see in the toilet is the outer bran, filled with poop.

    Also, we do just fine on grain seeds as a staple of our diet. We have since agriculture began.
     
  3. ncscindia41

    ncscindia41 Guest

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    Oh what a joke you are talking about, is earth like a see-saw that it will start rotating if everybody starts jumping in India and China
     
  4. The Center

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  5. Jack Daniels

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    That statement is analogous to eating an entire bag of skittles, including the actual material of the bag. Ew.

    No, we haven't been just fine, even when you look at the ancient Egyptians, one of the greatest and most influential cultures of the time period. They, unlike the common man today, had access to 100% organic, non-GMO, locally sourced grains all the time and yet they still suffered from coronary heart disease. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/221204.php

    Not to mention, they also suffered from poor dental health, not uncommon when they consumed bread with most of their meals.

    "For the common people of Egypt, cereal foods formed the main backbone of their diet from the predynastic period onward Even for the rich, this staple meal generally consisted of a variety of different breads, often with other ingredients mixed in." http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/diet.htm


    I'm done with this thread. Educate yourself.

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/#axzz29Cl8NGjb
    http://nourishedkitchen.com/against-the-grain-10-reasons-to-give-up-grains/
     
  6. PlacidDingo

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    Egyptians ate grain.
    Egyptians got heart disease.
    Therefore, grain creates heart disease.


    This game is fun! My turn.

    Egyptians worshipped cats.
    Egyptians got heart disease.
    Worshiping cats creates heart disease.
     
  7. Sam101

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    I got one for ya... Ancient Egyptians worshipped cats.... They all took craps...

    Therefore, if you have a cat you will take a crap?

    OOOH....

    Wait... I got one... All Egyptians ate food... They all met their demise... Therefore eating will lead to your demise....

    Of course.. The only invertible thing in the universe is meeting your demise...

    The big question of the day (that's the double jeopardy question) is... What next? I am kinda hoping there is an after..... I REALLY hope there is....
     
  8. zombiewolf

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    Yeah I heard an interview with a scientist that said the same thing, that we are all genetically modified corn flakes! lol

    Completely eliminating corn from your diet seems pretty difficult though(not that I would want to, I love corn!) besides all the foods that use corn as an ingredient there are a ton of corn products and by-products to avoid, many you probably wouldn't suspect at all. Here's a partial list...

    http://www.livecornfree.com/2010/04/ingredients-derived-from-corn-what-to.html

    • scorbic Acid (Vitamin C)
    • Baking Powder (corn starch)
    • Brown Sugar – look for use of Caramel color. Domino’s Brown sugar no longer uses Caramel color
    • Calcium Citrate - the calcium salt of citric acid.
    • Caramel – coloring used in soft drinks, derived from corn “or cane sugar.” The “or” in Coca-Cola's explanation refers to a temporary change to make the ingredients Kosher for Passover. The rest of the year, it is from corn.
    • Cellulose, Vegetable, Powered, etc.
    • Citrate - can refer either to the conjugate base of citric acid, or to the esters of citric acid. An example of the former, a salt is trisodium citrate; an ester is triethyl citrate. Forms of Citrate include: Calcium Citrate, Magnesium Citrate, Potassium Citrate, Sodium Citrate, and more.
    • Citric Acid - the source sugar is corn steep liquor along with hydrolyzed corn starch
    • Corn
    • Corn Meal – items baked sitting on Corn Meal such as Bagels, Breads or Pizza, may not list Corn Meal as an ingredient
    • Corn Starch – in most over the counter medicines that come in a dry pill form. Yes, this includes Benedryl too. Watch for Corn Syrup in the liquid forms.
    • Corn Syrup
    • Decyl Glucoside - used in personal care products such as shampoo. It is produced by the reaction of glucose from corn starch with the fatty alcohol decanol which is derived from coconut.
    • Dextrin, Maltodextrin – thickening agents found in sauces (check those frozen veggies!) salad dressings, and ice cream
    • Dextrose (glucose) – corn sugar, found in cookies, ice cream, and paired with glucose in hospital IVs unless specified not to! Can also be used as a carrier with anesthetic shots such as Lidocaine and Novocaine! Dextrose is also injected into meat, lunch meats and deli cuts. Be weary of “honey baked” items, the sweet flavor may not be from honey.
    • Ethanol - made by fermenting sugars produced from corn starch.
    • Ferrous Gluconate - i.e. as found in canned olives, and comes from corn or potato acid.
    • Flavoring - Artificial or "Natural Flavors" - as defined by the FDA regulations of labeling of spices, flavorings, and colorings.
    • Golden Syrup - Sometimes recommended as an alternate to Corn Syrup, but it may contain Corn Syrup as well.
    • Honey - May contain corn syrup, as HFCS is sometimes fed to bees, resulting in corn in the honey produced.
    • Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein (HVP)
    • Iodized Salt – Morton’s FAQ explains why they add Dextrose (corn) to their salt.
    • Lactic Acid - Commercially, lactic acid can be made synthetically from chemicals or organically as a byproduct of corn fermentation.
    • Lauryl Glucoside - is a surfactant used in cosmetics. It is a glycoside produced from glucose and lauryl alcohol.
    • Magnesium Citrate - Magnesium salt of citric acid.
    • Magnesium Stearate
    • Malic Acid
    • Malt
    • Malt Flavoring
    • Maltitol - (also known as Maltisorb and Maltisweet) Commercially, maltitol is a disaccharide produced by Corn Products Specialty Ingredients (formerly SPI Polyols), Cargill, Roquette, and Towa, among other companies. Maltitol is made by hydrogenation of maltose obtained from starch.
    • Maltodextrin
    • Maltose
    • Mannitol - A naturally occurring alcohol that is often combined with corn derived sugars. Here is the link on USDA's website explaining this practice.
    • Methyl Gluceth - an emollient used in cosmetics manufactured from corn sugar and corn starch.
    • Modified Food Starch
    • Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) - The MSGMyth site explains MSG is made from corn.
    • Polydextrose - is synthesized from dextrose, and contains sorbitol and citric acid. It is a food ingredient classified as soluble fiber and is frequently used to increase the non-dietary fiber content of food, replace sugar, reduce calories and reduce fat content. Note: Dextrose, Sorbitol, and Citric Acid are all on this list of ingredients derived from corn.
    • Polylactic Acid (PLA) - Plastic made from corn starch (U.S.) or sugarcane.
    • Polysorbates (i.e. Polysorbate 80) - Polysorbates are oily liquids derived from PEG-ylated sorbitan (a derivative of sorbitol) esterified with fatty acids.
    • Potassium Citrate - See Citrate above for details.
    • Powdered Sugar - contains corn starch
    • Saccharin – in powder form IS Sweet’N Low and therefore contains Dextrose.
    • Sodium Citrate - See Citrate above for details.
    • Sodium Erythorbate - is produced from sugars derived from sources such as beets, sugar cane and corn. It is a food additive used predominantly in meats, poultry, and soft drinks.
    • Sodium Starch Glycolate - is the sodium salt of a carboxymethyl ether of starch. It can be derived from any starch source (rice, corn, potatoes, etc).
    • Sorbitan - is a mixture of chemical compounds derived from the dehydration of sorbitol.
    • Sorbitan Monostearate - an ester of sorbitol and stearic acid. You will see this ingredient used in Yeast (and possibly other places as well).
    • Sorbitol – You will find Sorbitol in Sugar Free items such as candy, chewing gum, cosmetics, mouth wash, and toothpaste
    • Starch – often this is corn starch unless it specifies something else, like potato starch
    • Sucralose - Sucralose by itself may be corn free, though it is likely one best to avoid. Repackaged as the brand Splenda, it will contain dextrose and/or maltodextrin.
    • Sweet’N Low – contains Dextrose, and according to Sweet’N Low, ALL sugar substitutes in powder form contain Dextrose.
    • Tocopherol (Vitamin E)
    • Vanilla Extract – most brands will have corn syrup, though you can find organic brands that do not, though the alcohol may be corn-derived.
    • Vinegar, Distilled White - can be made from any sugar, but the most common method is to use corn that has been converted from starch into sugar.
    • Vitamins - Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) and Vitamin E (Tocopherols). Use caution with products that are "enriched" with added vitamins. The vitamins may be corn-derived, or corn-derivatives may be used in the binding (if solid) or suspension (if liquid) of the vitamin compound.
    • Xanthan Gum - a food additive that is used as a thickening agent. It is found in sauces, spices, and commonly in Gluten Free foods. Xanthan Gum is most often grown on corn, or corn sugars. If an item includes Xanthan Gum and states it is corn-free, call the manufacturing company and inquire as to the source of Xanthan Gum to be sure.
    • Xylitol - You will find Xylitol in Sugar Free items such as candy, chewing gum, cosmetics, mouth wash, and toothpaste
    • Zein – used in time-release medications, derived from Maize
     
  9. Rosehippy

    Rosehippy Banned

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    Oh dear.....my credibility has alluded me...here, among the drug fucked masses.....oh no!!!! C'est so fucking tragic!
     
  10. PlacidDingo

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    Don't sweat it.

    CIA was probably controlling your posting behaviour anyway, through mind lazoring all that fluoride.

    ;)
     
  11. Man Yellow

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