Substances to cut your MDMA with?

Discussion in 'MDMA - X' started by mixmaster1314, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. moka9x9

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    Just say someone has 1 oz of cocaine, the next person has 3/4 oz cocaine and 1/4 oz benzocaine repress. Same charge. Equal weight of drugs. Why would someone want to sell MORE of a product, re up more ect by having to pick up 1/4 more often.
     
  2. moneysquad1

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    It's the drug game.. Their is no honor.. EVER..
    No matter how you treat someone, they'll snitch on you when shit hits the fan..
    Being nice to a costumer isn't going to help you out of jail.. I've seen close friends go to prison.. They "treated the costumer nice.." were friends with the costumer.. and still got fucked.. Everyone cuts your stuff.. Most people here, are the type to assume they get "pure cocaine from Colombia.." It's ridiculous, the point of people selling drugs is to make money, not to make others happy.. You shouldn't even be selling drugs, if you don't need the money.. Selling drugs should never be a weekend hobby, or fun time event.. -_-
     
  3. eatlysergicacid

    eatlysergicacid Creep in a T-Shirt

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    I'd be far more concerned with accumulating bad karma than accumulating a little more money.

    Why not just buy drugs in bulk at a low price, and then sell them in smaller quantities for a larger total price? Instead of cutting to increase profit just raise the price or sell smaller quantities. By cutting you're forcing everyone who uses the drug along the line to ingest some amount of some substance that they're not trying to ingest, and you're forcing people to pay good money for some amount of some substance which isn't what they intended to buy. It's bad business. Also a good reason to not buy coke, since it's so rare to find it without cut.
     
  4. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    You and Moka are examples of standard protocol for the coke game. That sort of thug get my paper up attitude has no place among MDMA users.
    Everyone snitches for coke because that's the nature of that business, it's not the same with these sort of drugs.
    Trust me when I say you can get the pure stuff and many dealers will be happy to sell it to you.
     
  5. The Real Peter Parker

    The Real Peter Parker Member

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    If you were meant to be the one cutting this, you would have already known how to cut this. I would avoid attempting this, and surrender to the fact that you actually for once have quality product and must charge more, unless you are working in-person with one who is experienced with the cutting of MDMA.
     
  6. deXtrous

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    Some of you junkies are just way out of line.

    Say I buy a gram of crystal MDMA 85% pure..

    Who is going to believe me when I tell them this shit is strong as fuck.. Every dealer says that.

    Secondly, what if the drug is not sold by weight, but rather in a capsule?

    If I wanted to make 10 MDMA capsules from 1g crystal (100mg each - decent)... I am not going to stick such a small amount of MDMA into a capsule. I'm going to need to cut it so the capsule is more filled out.

    There are many reasons to cut a product.

    Some more,

    If I am selling pure MDMA people may misjudge the amount they consume. Why will they misjudge? Maybe because theyre used to weak MDMA so they eyeball a line and get totally blasted.


    You idiots get so butthurt over people cutting drugs, saying drug dealers are doing a PUBLIC SERVICE to people? What the hell? Drug dealers run business. Go to your local shopping center and complain to them for upmarking their prices from their wholesalers and see how much you get laughed at.

    I can tell there's a lot of junkie idiots here who've been ripped off by shitty MDMA or something alike.

    The fact is, this guy might have some good purity crystal. Cutting it down is still going to be a lot stronger than anything you knobs have most likely got your hands on.

    :2thumbsup:
     
  7. eggsprog

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    yeah, fuck you guys. why would i sell someone good quality drugs when i can make the same money by cutting it and making the capsule look more full?
     
  8. 1r0n_0x1d3

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    What the fuck has greed eatten all your brains.
     
  9. eatlysergicacid

    eatlysergicacid Creep in a T-Shirt

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    Sorry, but when you deal with intelligent people who know their shit, they can easily understand that 100 mg of pure MDMA crystals is enough to have in one capsule, without complaining that it looks too small. Also, when you deal with people who are prepared enough to own a milligram scale then it's a good courtesy to give them pure drugs which they can then weigh and dose accurately.

    I apologize if I have no interest in eating whatever the fuck some random dealer feels like cutting their shit with.

    If you want to sell a gram of molly in caps then put 100mg in each cap and charge enough to make money. Tell your customer that each cap has 100mg in it(and actually put 100mg!) and tell them that it's pure and enough to roll on. If you have smart customers then they'll know that what you're telling them is true, and they'll come back because they appreciate being treated like an adult.

    Otherwise what would you say? If I got a capsule with 200mg of powder in it, and I took it and had a moderate roll, equivalent to 100mg of pure molly, I would be pissed and I would never buy from that person again. If I buy 100mg, and I have a moderate roll equivalent to 100mg of pure molly, then I know that I've found a respectable person who I will definitely continue to do business with.

    If i go to the store for a bottle of alcohol and I find out that the store has been getting their bottles, opening them and putting water in them to sell more bottles with the same amount of alcohol then I'd sure as hell complain. Marking prices up from wholesale is common practice, cutting is not.
     
  10. MeatyMushroom

    MeatyMushroom Juggle Tings Proppuh

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    ^You sir, have your head screwed on very very well.. pretty much every post is bang the fuck on :2thumbsup:



    Anyway, Mr. deXtrous.. It's people like you that give drugs a bad name, so I thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for fucking everything up for the rest of us.

    Has it ever occurred to you that if your product is amazingly strong, and you actually give two fucks about your customers, that you could just say.. "Don't take too much, it's good shit"?
    Plus, another bonus of not cutting your drugs is that you shift the same amount in less time..

    And I'm curious.. what do you cut your MDMA with? Nothing silly and dangerous I hope..
     
  11. thismoment

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    Well, money and deXtrous, we move in different circles, thankfully.
     
  12. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    At one point I cut 2ci that I was selling in capsules. I got the smallest size 4 capsules but the 10mg I put in each capsules barely filled it. The first customers liked it but some were skeptical as to the small amount of powder in the capsule which was largely empty. I had to explain to them that the drug was active in such small amounts. Eventually I started cuting the 2ci down with an inert substance so that it would fill the capsule but each one would still contain 10mg of 2ci. No one comlained after that, and they all liked it, not knowing some of the powder was an inert substance, they still contained the same amount. For some reason people expect a capsule to be full, or there to be a large amount of powder and think that a small amount or a capsule not completely full means they're getting ripped off. For that reason I think it's okay to cut MDMA if it is being put into capsules, as long as you're not totally fucking over them on the dose in each capsule. I would say MDMA in capsules is very often cut in order to fill large 00 size caps.
     
  13. Trips509

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    This guy in my town was get oz's of I would guess 80% pure mdma. Everyone loved it and he was selling it like hot cakes. It went like this for like a year. Then he got greedy and started cutting it with 5-htp. He dropped the price, but the quality dropped to like 40%. People still bought it at first but they they had to eat 3, 4, or 5 capsules when before they ate like 1 or 2. Eventually people stopped buying it altogether for the most part. Every once in a while, someone who had never tried mdma would ask for a hookup and then be disappointed with the effects. Finally, someone else met the original source and started selling it uncut again. Needless to say, he put the original guy out of business fast and everyone was happy again even though they had to pay more. So looking at the OP's situation from a purely business stand point. You still shouldn't cut your drugs. That's not including the many other more important reasons you shouldn't do it.
     
  14. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Thankfully, it's pretty easy to tell when you're dealing with this kind of fucktard.

    The legit guy gives you one when you first meet him, he's got good prices and fire shit, and he knows his chemicals, no waffling, he says what he means.... Of course you go back, and direct others to him.

    The wannabe gangster sells you a pill that looks "full" when it doesn't need to be, and the effects are not consistant with what the contents weigh out to, even though he talked his bullshit brown sugar up -- you warn everyone about him and never go back.

    Simple.

    Also, it's fun to warn people who you know are trying to screw you, who have bunk overpriced shit, that they're being screwed.... and wait for the "nahh man, this is blah blah blah from blah blah blah...."
     
  15. Mr.Writer

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    This may come as a huge surprise to you, but when some dealers are selling a product of a certain grade, that grade can, and is, spoken about openly and honestly. Descriptions like "It's not the best but its alright", or "this is half as strong as the last stuff i had" are actually used by honest dealers all the time. I know, it's a crazy world. What's crazier is that when dealers are honest about the quality of their product, turns out the customers actually believe them when they are told "this shit will blow you away!"

    Yeah, maybe if your customers are fucking idiots. If I sold my buddies a capsule bursting at the seams with white powder and told them its "100mg MDMA", they'd tell me no thanks. Someone who knows what drug they are taking is going to notice right away "hmm, this capsule has 400% more material in it than I was told it does, I wonder what the additional 300% stuff is that i'm about to eat?"

    What happens when you're not dealing with MDMA? What happens when you're selling caps of 2c-x @ ~20mg or whatever. Someone buying "20mg 2c-b" in a cap is going to be a little confused when he gets a completely full 00 cap.

    This is just dishonest and playing to the lowest common denominator of customer. Why don't you educate your customers, spread knowledge, you know it will actually help them not get ripped off or physically hurt when dealing with drugs.

    So your logic is "Gosh, these knobs I'm selling MDMA to couldn't possibly have ever had pure MDMA, and they are SUCH goddamn knobs that I can't trust them to not overdose on the drug I'm selling them, so I'd better mix it 5:1 flour:MDMA just so nobody gets hurt"?

    Seriously dude?

    None of your justifications work, reading between the lines all we see is "I make money ripping off my customers, who I also look down upon as stupid".

    I've handled much pure MDMA and there was never a single reason to dilute it with anything else, ever.

    Also, if you're trying to protect your customers from ODing by diluting your product, what happens when they do finally score some actually pure MDMA and go rail a 450mg line because that's what they need off your shitty stuff to feel a buzz? Then what, it's the other drug dealer's fault for not cutting his product?

    You make my head hurt.

    I'm also glad we travel in very, very, very different circles. You wouldn't last 1 minute in mine.

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  16. AceK

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    I really wish it was the way it used to be...nowadays people putting all kinds of crazy chemicals in pills, piperazines and shit is unacceptable.
     
  17. unfocusedanakin

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    There is allot of pure stuff going around especially in Europe. Don't let these money hungry types discourage you. Most people in the Molly scene are going to pass it on to you without cutting it.
     
  18. ivanx4

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    im new to the whole mail order rc chems thing, i just dont wanna be conned but im being offered mdma at $45 the gram on wholesale, does that sound like a scam ?
     
  19. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    use ur best judgement, you haven't provided enough information about ur conversation with the vendor to offer advice....it it starts to seem sketchy or they throw in things that weren't mentioned to begin with, its probably a scam.
     
  20. Mr.Writer

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    MDMA is generally not considered an "RC" fyi.

    It's impossible to tell just off the price, usual giveaways are payment methods, the communication styles of the source and reviews on safeorscam dot com
     

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