this was my fourth trip with morning glory, and physchedelics in general, all with using heavenly blue morning glory (hence my username ). I took them how most people normally take, grinded them up, put em un under your tongue, and swallow. i had about 460 or 470 seeds, which is well beyond what most people take on average (200-250 seeds). i had only had a piece of pizza and carrots that day, and i took them about 5 when i ate at 12, so i was fairly empty. the only thing that probably made my trip worse was that i had a trip like 2 weeks before that. I know, i really should have waited with a dose like that for a better trip, but i REALLY wanted to do it again. so heres what happened, sorry that theres not many times, never really thought that through i guess. 5:00 pm: ground up the seeds into a semi-fine powder like sand, and started ingesting. now this stuff is absoultely some of the worst tasting stuff thats ever been in my mouth, just terrible. almost barfed multiple times, just a real bummer deal, and took me like 30 minutes to put it all under my tongue and ingest it, taking a little at a time from a solo cup, and just waiting for the moment afterward when i could wash down the taste with a glass of milk. dont let this be a precurser for the rest of the trip though :sunny: 5:30: my brother and I start heading toward, archery practice, me being really bummed out that i cant stay at home and enjoy the trip. but other than that, i felt generally happy, and rather calm and absentminded, like the 15 minutes after you smoke a bowl and ur starting to rise up. shot way better too, which was cool . around the end of archery practice, 6:00, i when i start seeing visuals, rather faint and drab at first, but their there. little flashes of white light around your general feild of vision, and when i would look at something, and then looked away, it general shape would carry on in my vision for awhile, then quikly fade away. those were rather interesting, and were a variety of colors, most often not the color the object was.very vague closed eyed visuals of geometric figures floated around, just outlines, not solid at all. when i got home, i went up to my room to chill out and listen to some Floyd, the visuals were getting slighty better now, consisting now of beautiful color flashes, of many different colors at ounce, and also black sploches covering up some of my field of vision. this kinda had me worried, but went away after about 20 minutes or so. keep in mind, while all this is happening, im in the same mental state i was in earlier. the closed eyes visuals were beautifull now, stars, hearts, and circles were spinning exactly the same time, as well as what i would call a "river" of mixed and changing rainbow colors, slowing flowing through this thin line across my field of vision. the stars and hearts and circles were cool though, because each one had its on intricite, multicolored patterns, inside them. also when, i looked at lights, there was always a halo around, even the tiniest light.i expirimented with music for a couple of hours now, with nothing really provoking anything. then the first wave fell and i went inside, to eat. when i got inside, thtats when my thoughts started rushing, not that fast at first but slowly getting faster. as i talked with my parents, i had this odd feeling that i was being interrogated, but i was still really happy. i aksed questions i wouldnt normally ask, like how was both of their days. asking questions like that made me feel great about myself for some reason. and in those fifteen minutes or so, i thought, this is what family is susposed to be about sitting and enjoying eachothers company and loving eachother, and it felt right. a little before my parents left, i started seing visuals again. same stuff as last time, just more vivid, and some were so vivid, i had trouble distuinguishing whether these were part of the tip or not. about 20 minutes after i looked at the light on the ceiling and closed my eyes over and over again, i felt the urge to write something, didnt know what just wanted to write. so i got a pencil and paper and began. my writing was really light, which was weird cause usually i press real hard when i right. anyways heres what i wrote:"colors flash and shift in all manners of the world, big vomuptuous flashes of orange and burgandy. but there are numerous other colors, red, green, and blue suffice to say. ocasional lines of rainbow flash in and out of my sight. noises apear SOO much closer than they would have in the "real world". in short, i feel happy here, and nothing ever really bothers me. I percieve these as live dreams that are possible to happening, and that even now there are wild thoughts going through my head, like the endless thoughts of a racehorse going in for the victory.during this expirience, i often have difficulty expressing what i feel into the written language, and that even now this becomes a hardship, a constant mindless race of thoughts whizzing by in my head, and just tagging and catching certain ones that come along. everything seems normal, but a different tint of the word shrouding it in mystery and color.i wonder why we live the way we live, and why hurt one another. it makes me feel peace, that even now in this hard time,that i cant rest now with the safety of my loving parents, looking out for me. when i dont focus on the expirience it doesent come, but when it does, oh boy does it!! I think, feel, eat, and sleep absolute euphoria during this expireince. my body is now thankfully submitting to the powerful materials i have given it. right now; i see what no other man can see, feel what not other man can feel, an do what no other man can do.when i close my eyes gently, i see evershifting nearest me, and evercircling patterns beyond them. everything on this earth is a gift for me, and i should treat it with due respect. my life is a waterfall, theres only on way to fall. so get up and try again my friend" i love this writing alot for some reason, it just captures my midset really well at that time. well that was my trip. all in all, id say it was one o the cooler things ive done in my life, and i hope to get some more soon. hope you enjoyed reading about it. any questions, feel free to ask.
funny to see how much you enjoyed the CEV's! I enjoy them as vivid dreams, in fact I start a lot of my trips by closing my eyes and listening to music, you'll slowly see your mind open up this complex wave of particles that flow with the sound A little risky to be going to archery practice and talking to your parents though! Especially at 15. I'm no one to judge, but it may be more meaningful to try these again later in your life. I've had similar feelings with family before, I feel this 21st century version of a family is very disconnected due to globalization. We're now able to stay in contact with the rest of the world and all of our friends, that we tend to overlook our family life. Eating food at the dinner table is less of a tradition as it is a chore, but it's just very natural. Talking to your family is enough in these days, you can share each others values without all these old traditions, it just feels funny as it is somewhat of a new concept.
Ah man I honestly wish I had had the psychedelic experience at 15. The concept of freedom is so essential to said experience, I wonder how does it affect the teenager's perspective on their own self-determination and the concept of youth in general? How did it change the way you think about things? When I was 15, I felt like I was being ripped in two by social/societal pressures that were telling me both that I needed to grow up and that I wasn't ready to grow up. I felt like all the adults in my life were in control of my life rather than it being my own determination. Did you feel like that? Have you gained insight on your life as a developing adolescent? Have you discovered new truths about reality, etc.?
in reply to joey: sorry if this isnt very clear or intrusting to you, cause im pretty stoned . anyway, as you said with my determination and concept on youth: umm havent really noticed anything substancial, but ive noticed every body has a clique somewhere, which i guess was something that i hadnt thouht of before. I now have this moral law now: only attack somebody if they do first damage, and that wasnt really the case before. also i come to believe that alot of drugs useres (besides crack, or herroin) are good kids, and they shouldnt be judged as bad, as soon as someone hears they do drugs. thats probably just beacuse im a pretty regular reefer user . and with the being ripped part: um i kinda feel like im being forced to grow up, and i wanna grow up, just not i the area that i wanna , you know? as far as adults: a few determiners among a giant swarm of life controllers. as far as the rest of the questions, not really. this wasnt really a mind altering trip, for the most part. so what did you first trip on? how was it? what was it like? all that good stuff XD seeya later man!
I did salvia when I was 17 and then acid when I was 18, but not on the same level that you did. The salvia wasn't really an eye-opener. Gonna do some MGs within the next week though.
how was salvia?? thinking about trying it next, either it or shrooms. is there any diference in the expirience between the two, what kinda things do you see on both of them, and what one do you prefer? ive heard of some really weird salvia trips, which IMO shouldnt really be my first HARDCORE trip. but all the shroom reports ive heard sound amazing, wayy better than salvia, to me anyway. which one gives more visual and hearing halucinations? oh, and where in the world did you find acid? its like next to impossible to find nowadays! and how did acid change ur perception of things???
Salvia was pretty wicked. Nothing like acid. I didn't "break through" on salvia, so I just felt like I was in a big red tent trying to find my way out. It was just my face in a sea of red, except it was imposing geometric patterns on my consciousness. Not in an acid-y kind of way, but just that it felt like everything was folding in on itself. It was pretty stellar, but way qualitatively different than acid. I listened to Friends by the Beach Boys during my salvia experience, and it was pretty cool. Acid is much more integrated with reality, whereas salvia really wanted to take me to another world. I took only one hit of acid though and 100 MGs today so it wasn't very intense. I would deff recommend shrooms over salvia, I haven't done shrooms but salvia is really intense. Acid really helped me form freer associations with stuff, I found it easier to grasp difficult concepts. I highly highly recommend it.
was salvia doesent seem like my kinda thing at all! hey let me ask you another question man, have you ever toked just so you could have a flashback?? cause idk if its the strain im smoking or not; but i get pretty good flashbacks from a nice sized bowl. most of the time i just see light strings coming off off lights, then floating around for a while, then slowly floating away. but there was this one time where in these woods behind this gravel quarry, with a bay nearby and there was music playing from one of the boats that i could hear, wasnt very good though like katy perry and pop stuff. anyways i thought it would be a cool place to toke ( I went back there to look for shrooms actually), so i took out my glass pipe and my zippo and loaded probably the biggest bowl ive ever smoked by myself, although ive smoke three little bowls before. i took about maybe 10 or 12 hits until the reefer was white as snow, then i took a few more resin hits, and sucked a few more resin hits in, purposely swallowing the rest of the bowl (waste not want not ). around 5 minutes after i was done, i noticed the music sounding very diffferent, and certain parts of the song would sustain an echo for what seemed like several minutes, then the echos of one song would stop and then completely restart its echos in another song! it was getting dark, and when i looked at the trees it seemed like they were a big dark spiderweb, ignored them out of fear, went to go step to check out something, then i swore i heard someone watching me, i looked up the hill into the valley, and though i saw i tall skinny man in black, i stood there watching "him" for about what seemed like 30 minutes, i then stepped again and realized it was just my own feet and there was nobody there, so i went up the hill and wandered on home. the road home was just like nothing ive ever heard before. there were like 7 voices saying things that made absolutlely no sense at the time. they were all voices i had heard from somewhere, but me, stoned as i was, couldnt remember whose voices they were. i also had a constant fear a paronia, always looking over my shoulder and such, but never really panicking because of the pot. also, anytime i looked over my shoulder, and then looked back, i almost went off the road! the voices were interesting; the paranoia, not so much. just a long story about how pot flashbacks can sometimes give you a decent trip. have you ever had a pot flashback of a flashback in general?? what are they like to you? if you have any questions regarding any of my falshbacks, id be more than happy to awnswer!
I haven't smoked since I did the MGs Sunday, but I smoked on Sunday and it kicked the trip in hardcore. I wasn't really having much tripping except I was acting extremely goofy but then shit started moving after I hit the bubbler. I tripped hard like I couldn't even talk right and then I got really freaked out. I was shaking so bad I couldn't even go to classes the next day. So needless to say I sold all my seeds. I'm kinda scared of smoking now, because it really fucked me up. Moral of the story, be careful with that shit and don't do it twice within a few days.
yea. i think it might be something deep in you memory_flashbacks i mean_because there progressively getting worse and less memorible each time i toke. i might be though too that ive been taking resin hits for like the last week... i dont know. thats weird what you said about how using the bubbler boosted it up alot, cause ive heard of people that toke before they trip. and it makes it better cause of the set any setting (when ur stoned almost anywheres comfortable and safe feeling, at least to me). you should be perfectly fine to toke now if ya wanna expirience a flashback, but if you wanna wait a week or so to maybe lessen the effects, its ur choice. so what kinda stuff did you see and were afraid of? did you see like human figures? was it similiar to my expirience? and why was it so scary??
I didn't really have any strong visuals. I just felt really fucked up, like I called up my sister and started talking nonsense to her like "mmgmmfgfmblahe" and after a while I really wanted to be sober and I got all shaky and the shaking was so intense I couldn't do anything the next day. Like literally I stayed in bed the whole day.