I've got two pills of 2ce containing 12.5mgs each in them and am wondering if I should try one of them....although little, I have had prior hallucinogen experience (lsd, k2, shrooms, salvia), but I still have a lot of apprehension on trying this one...recently I have been having infrequent panic attacks as well as minor manic outbreaks because I've been off my meds...I've been on meds (TCA's and ssri's mostly) in the past and am probably going to get prescribed one of those again very soon. It's interesting because a lot of the times I am perfectly fine and in a great mood throughout the day but other times I have a really hard time.....I am curious whether to try 2ce when I'm in a good mood off my meds or waiting till i get back on my meds to try them...and if i do whether there would be any interaction between the two...and even apart from all that I'm wondering how safe 2ce is to begin with.....all and all though, I really want to try 2ce.
12.5 mgs is not a significant dose of 2ce but it will create definite effects. Id treat it with the same preparation as Lsd, shrooms and go into the trip with a positive headspace and off the meds. Yes its a safe trip.
Alright, thanks man....I should be doing it this weekend with a friend and if all goes well I'll be getting more and might try 20mgs
12 mg 2ce was my first research chemical ever. 2ce SEEMS "safe" when used infrequently. i would recommend not dosing it more often than once per month, if that. i sort of regret my over use of 2ce.
Just don't re-dose. CE takes about 90 min to 2 hours to really get going so don't expect a come up as quick as LSD for example. CE has been used for many years without issue by people, plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest it's ok. But it has never had the same research drugs like LSD have had (and that's not much either). But IMO it's allot safer then the new NBOM versions of the 2c family. With those you really need to be careful with dose for your safety. With plan CE it will be a bit more forgiving.
^^^ Yep. However, as with many things in life, not just drugs, safety depends on understanding a bit about what you're doing, and doing it safely. 2Ce is as dangerous as anything else, played with recklessly.
Just ended up taking the 12.5mg 2ce today....It was an overall mild experience. I didn't notice as many visuals as I suspected, but I definitely did feel a shift in consciousness/temperament.
12.5 is a really weak dose IMHO. <-[Not meant for to insult you] My first trial with 2C-E [after an allergy test] was 25 mgs into the stomach served with a side of 6 mgs for the nose... That was actually quite strong. I wasn't quite acting myself that's for sure. Strong effects and strong visuals.. With that 2C-E stuff, the same dose taken to the nose, or to the stomach, will produce wildly different effects. [The other 12.5 mg should be enough for 2 peoples noseholes if that's how you want to go.] But it does burn worse than pretty much anything else you've ever snorted before... don't be deceived by it being a tiny little pile of powder either... still burns no joke Like porkstock, I am often heard saying how I regret abusing 2C-E and tripping too often with too high of a dose. It seems to not give as much decrease in effects as other psychs with frequent dosing. I think I tripped twice a week for a few months... this 2C-E stuff is no good for that, but on the other hand I dare you to name a psychedelic that is... TopNotchStoner [a user from this forum who used to be very active but is no longer] is a good term to put in the search bar of this site along with 2C-E to pull some really good info out. He recommends high doses for those experienced with psychedelics. I never followed his advice, though he did make the experience something I want to do. Maybe there is someone here who can comment to 50+mg 2CE experiences. I do remember from TNS threads, that he says there is a middle ground that is bad... any dose size above 25 mgs, that is not also above 50mgs, is going to make you feel like sh*t. I can agree with this somewhat since that is the range where most of my bad experiences were in. I don't know why this is, but 2C-E is the most nausea and stomach pain that any psychedelic has caused me ever [and these nausea/stomach pains were experiences ranging from 25-40mg]. Hope this helps.
Here is a 52 mgs 2ce trip report from me. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=421825&f=126
12 mg was enough to give me a good feel for the drug on my first trial with it: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=80186 whereismymind, no reason to increase your dose to 50 mg, at least not for your next dose. 16-20 mg is a good range for me. i've had pretty strong visuals from 17 mg, VERY strong ones from 19 mg. i've never done more than about 20 mg, and i would not suggest snorting it!
I started with 12 because I wanted to start off easy....i know it's a pretty low dose. 50mgs seems way to overwhelming for me. I think 20-25 should be good.
I believe it. For a first trial its always best to exercise highest level of caution. My first 2C-E trial was irresponsible to do such a dose [after only trying 1-2mg to make sure it wasn't deadly at <2mg dose]. But I think 20mg is minimum quantity to get the full experience with visuals that are detailed and profound enough to prove entertaining. such 12 mg one hit of acid threshold effects can be seen in public. two hits of acid equivalent to 20mg, starting to be in a state where you don't want to be in public P.S. guerillabedlam I read the first page of your link that's a good thread so far I will go through the whole thread later thanks for the contribution.
25mg dosage was good for me. I never got sick while on all the times I've tried it (8 times in 9 months...wow didn't seem that often). It's been six months since I've tried it though. 30mgs was the highest and pretty strong for me. 16-20 is nice and generally tame.
