EGO: The war on mother nature!

Everything is subjective, but if there is one thing that we have in common it's nature! When nature is oppressed we are all oppressed by it no matter what you believe, we are all within the human experience and just being together in presence we are communicating beyond words, through life itself! It's the same when we are surrounded by nature and cleanse ourselves from the misconceptions taught to us by the Ego. Being conditioned by the Ego and the illusion of separation, it only causes us to separate ourselves from nature- each other, animals, plants etc. Nature being the natural world around us, and nature being our source- one connected consciousness.

 

thedope:

Giving value is evaluating, not least of all oneself. I don't deceive myself about this. If 'good' is not good in substance or circumstance, what do you think it is? Forget 'fortune', how is health illness? By relation to itself?

No, and it wasn't 'bad' either. What is it about a misunderstanding you don't understand after the event? Did you learn the lesson or something?

 

Where our treasure lies there is our heart also. Your devotion to extension is inherent, devaluation is not.

Life without measure.

Illness is immune reaction, part of systemic health.

Absolutely!, and I think that I have not met one who hasn't, although most are unaware they are so affected. I am not the same person in perspective as was a dozen years ago. I used to be on the right wing side of nut jobs and responded to stimuli mechanically, that is thoughtlessly or inconsiderately
at some level by virtue of cultural conditioning.

I had to train my mind which involved discovering and giving up unwarranted assumptions about the most basic things in life and what appears in stead of those assumptions, is plain and unassuming proportions. In other words I gave up the idea that I knew anything and learned the world anew.

 

You are right dejavu, bad is loose speech. The lesson was and is not sound.

 

I did not say that it was. You're not trying to say that evaluation necessitates extension into devaluation are you?

Even were I to be 'loose', and allow immeasurability be synonymous with an "absence" of measure, how could life lack its substance or circumstances?

No, it is the failure of immune response. The 'good' one might have in illness is not the illness itself.

We're all still doing so. We can unlearn what we have learned about the world, not the world itself.

We have no disagreement that there is nothing inherently wrong with the ego.

So can you say it was never really a lesson? You say you learnt it absolutely. I say you know only not to try and learn it again. :-D

 

It depends on the gold standard. If it is not standard, then yes, it appreciates and depreciates. I am saying that only appreciation is valuable. The only thing that can be absent in any situation is what you have not given.

It doesn't. shutup, be still and know that I am god.

The illness is the bodies reaction to an invader as it develops antibodies. The illness is not caused by the invader. It is not the failure of the immune response. If there were no immune response, there would be no sickness.

"We can unlearn what we have learned about the world, not the world itself."

 

We live in a beautiful world of harmony and creation. Yet we destroy her, and she is our only means of survival. The human race has become a virus to mother earth.

Nature will provail. All will fall back into place. We will learn that we are not supposed to be beings of ego and selfish ways, nor are we separate beings from all else, we are nature, just like everything else that we (and only we) label.

Remember why you came. Remember your reason for joining the earth, return to your roots. Be one.

 

One what? ;-D

We're supposed to have a reason for joining the earth now?! Love's not enough?

Humanity is no disease.

 

thedope:

:-D God who? The life of the mind is all very well, even though you don't credit the body with its own. lol

The life of the heart is its own measure!

No life either. Health is the immune response, not illness.

 

One living world. Seeing as we have become these selfish seperate things that couldnt care less about each other or the world aka the only reason we exist here.

Love is enough, but where has it gone?

Humanity is what exactly then, right now? because all I see is little people running round like maniacs, building pointless buildings everywhere, tearing up the landscape and the plants. Destroying and infecting the land, like a virus. I dislike the fact that we should feel proud at doing things like rainforest conservation and sponsering wild animals in danger, because we created these problems, we cause some spieces to go extinct, and the amount that are endangered too because of our selfish actions. Most of the problems in the world are our fault, we have fucked it up, soon enough there will be a point of no return, i just hope it doesn't reach that point.

 

Where has our love gone? Towards satisfying the ego... and that really isn't love, it can be a destructive illusion. I agree with you 100%

 

reminds me of this documentary, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hx-G1uhRqA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hx-G1uhRqA

 

It just saddens me that the immense love we are born with ends up dissolving into selfish actions and ego enhancement. School, work, media, war, all of that type of thing makes us forget our true nature, we weren't made to be stuck in an office all day or a classroom. Almost everything in 21st century life completely brainwashes us into false seperation. We learn for ourselves, earn for ourselves and even yearn for ourselves but hardly ever do any of that for anyone else. It's the way this lifestyle and society has made us and in a way it has given us no choice but to be that way. It's really sad actually...

 

it's so sad

 

MamaPeace:

Have we become those things altogether? Love is never absent, no matter how obscure we make it.

Irisaura:

Can people who are true to nature afford to be sad?

Let's hold out hope if nothing else! Let's restore the ego to full health! To its whole love.

 

I have hope though as sad or as beautiful as things may be, optimism will always shine through, mother nature will always prevail.

Also I read this today and thought it was very relevant to the thread, it is a beautiful quote -

"What if the point of life has nothing to do with the creation of an ever-expanding region of control? What if the point is not to keep at bay all those people, beings, objects and emotions that we so needlessly fear? What if the point instead is to let go of that control? What if the point of life, the primary reason for existence, is to lie naked with your lover in a shady grove of trees? What if the point is to taste each other’s sweat and feel the delicate pressure of finger on chest, thigh on thigh, lip on cheek? What if the point is to stop, then, in your slow movements together, and listen to the birdsong, to watch the dragonflies hover, to look at your lover’s face, then up at the undersides of leaves moving together in the breeze? What if the point is to invite these others into your movement, to bring trees, wind, grass, dragonflies into your family and in so doing abandon any attempt to control them? What if the point all along has been to get along, to relate, to experience things on their own terms? What if the point is to feel joy when joyous, love when loving, anger when angry, thoughtful when full of thought? What if the point from the beginning has been to simply be?"