trip if i had a recent break up?

Hey, whats up.

So my question is, me and (lets call her biatch) were together for 6 years, since im 15 and she 14. But this year things between me and biatch got a bit messy, it ended with a break up and also there was a coworker involved, some nasty shit, but well shit happens right? so this took place 2 months ago, and im feeling alot better now, i think im starting to move on from that relationship, but she is still in my mind most of the time. So today my buddy texts me and says hey tonight come to my house we are going to take some acid maybe u want some? So i would like to enjoy the night with my friends and a lil bit of acid to make things more interesting, but im worried that i would have a bad time since i have all this thoughts about me and biatch running aaround in my head.

What u guys think?

pd: i was thinking on taking a small dose, like half a tab or so...

 

Im going to say no. Don't trip. Or take a very low dose. If its on your mind now, it will be then too, unless your buddies are really awesome.I just did something similar. But, I took 8 strong hits. There was many times, were I got angry, sad, desire to see her, pain and other negative feelings during the trip,(early on before i totally deconstructed reality) especially when I looked at my phone cause I talk to her so much. (which i ended up trowing into the woods while on a psychedelic rant, about relationships and smartphones lol.

I had the most amazing trip of my life, a real spiritual and thought invoking trip, but alot of it was negative and scary, I made a post about it, and I feel like the recent break up and setting combined leaned the trip in that way. Even though I thought i would be fine. We push alot of emotions away and into our subconscious and acid will bring those back around in a heart beat.


I also want to add that, in alot of my trips, circling through emotions is very common, but theres usually a point where love and contentment shine through near the peak, like in my stronger trips i've had this period of feeling totally one with everything and this over whelming feeling of id call it "true love" or something. And when that feeling fades, I always find myself looking for and thinking of the people I love. And like I said last time, that ended up being negative, because the person I love did me wrong recently.

 

you've been in a 6 year relationship at age 15, hold down a job (with ex working same place), and you want to know if you should trip?

 

This would not be a good idea. If your mind is not in a good place be prepared for a hellish nightmare of a trip.

 

he said since he was 15, he's 21 now.


Considering that you are referring to her as biatch, maybe things are still kind touchy, but on the flip side it might be just the thing you need to see ways that you may have aided the break-up and how she might be a biatch, but your an asshole.

Not being rude, just saying that psychedelics are not going to reveal to you much about her, but will reveal a lot about you in the relationship.

So the question you really should be asking yourself is
"Can I really handle looking into the honest mirror of LSD at this time?".
Lucy don't pull any punches, so if you think you can handle a few smacks to the back of the head, sure go for it.

 

ok, i understand, yes i thought maybe this trip would help me get over it and see things in the "lsd mirror", which i have looked before and sometimes its not so nice. Also there was the possibillity it would make me have a real bad time as i cant really get her out of my mind yet. Lol i havent slept much today thats why the biatch thing lol. I was planning on taking a really small dose like half a tab or maybe less 1/4 tab to not feel that much. But i dont know, maybe ill just stick to weed and beer, i havent tripped on lsd for good 6 or 8 months.
Well this are really close friends of mine, i know them from years, but they also remind me of my ex, i dont know, anyways if i do it ill tell how it went

 

Ok just to makes things clear, i got with her when i was 15 and she was 14, now im 21 and she is 20. And also it was her coworker, i didnt work there. . . she doesnt work there anymore either. All of this took place 2 months ago, and it was a pretty harsh experience, maybe lsd would help me process it all?

 

Have you dropped before?

It's not gonna help you process anything. It's going to totally shit on w.e you're trying to hold on to or process, then make you see it in a different way.

Maybe youll come back with a deeper understanding of the human connection and the energies of this world, maybe youll fall in love with yourself and the world.

Or maybe youll just have a nightmarish trip and never want to trip again.

 

I'd say go for it. Take one hit. Just thinking about a girl you broke up with won't automatically send you into a bad trip. It would probably give you a new perspective on it, and as long as your in a good setting with good friends you would most likely be able to keep your mindset positive. Especially on a low dose. Low doses of LSD don't force you to confront your problems head on like large doses do. You have a lot of freedom to decide where your trip goes.

 

yea well i already had that nigthmarish trip , and already felt the fall in love with the wordl and myself thing I tripped a few times yes. But thinking about it, and u guys advices i think im going to skip the trip for today. Also that nigthmarish trip i talk about it made me realize that i wasnt making good decision at the time, then one day i woke up with an epifany and started studying really hard for college, quitted partying so much lol not that it had anything to do with it, but i remember it was a really bad experience :/ not as bad as smoking too much salvia lol

 

That is a good idea.

Noticed that Nox picked up on your use of the term biatch. He's a smart cat. :sunny:

There will come a time when you can look back on that scene with clearer eyes but it sounds like now is not it.

Didn't have anything to do with it? You're on the cusp of understanding how L can be an amazing teacher. Next time you come back to this thread, may I suggest you re-read everything you wrote here and pay attention to the words you use and the way in which you use them.
I'm picking up on some feelings, experiences and attitudes that you might be missing.
Of course I could be way off base here.

 

I'm Going to have to disagree with most people here. And side with eatlysergicacid!

Think of this as a rebirth, an entrance into your new life. Will you probably face thoughts and emotions towards her, yes. But the solution isn't to ignore any chance of that, it's to face through and I say a fun trip with your friends is a great way to do it! Move on, think past the confines of reality

What's going to happen if you don't drop? You may get stuck into some unwanted loop and feel like you need her back. Let go, free your mind

 

thanks everyone for the answears, they are really helpfull since u guys probably are more experienced users and probably older than me. So ill just see how things go and if i feel like it ill take it

you might be in the right, but could u tell me more? what do u mean with this?

love is a beautiful thing and for sure me and biatch were inlove with eachother, but when this year started i could feel things were different, from my side and from her side. I dont hate biatch, im just a lil upset with her maybe but i guess thats natural in this things called break ups.
Like Black_Lotus said, i felt all of this like a rebirth. maybe i should let my new self settle a lil bit more before taking it into a psychodelic trip.

 

Ok, I'll try to share my experience, approach, and what I sense from your words. Your words are all I have to go on, but words say a whole lot if you listen.

As Nox picked up on, calling someone you claim to have been in love with 'biatch' is indicative of something deeper. If you claim to have loved her, then now that you're not a couple, is that cause to no longer love her? Is your love conditional on her behaving as you wish? Calling a woman a biatch is a form of diminishing them. It takes away their humanity and reduces them to an object, one of "them". Psychedelics make me a part of, not separate from.

Refer to Pink Floyd's "Us and Them".

Dismissing things as "shit happens" is sweeping it under the rug. One reason I suggested against tripping at a party is because lucy has a way of pointing that behavior out. I suspect that is what others here were thinking too. I further suspect that you are quite skilled at sweeping under rugs.

Please dig this ... I'm not bagging on you Sir. We're all flawed humans. And I'm definitely copping to having done some of the same in the past.

Under the rug Sir. When you're ready to move on you can lift the rug up, see all the dirt, and address it like a conscious human. Only you and her know what that is.

Then smoke a little ganj.
This is much too long to address but has fail written all over it. Just the fact that you are questioning yourself about the wisdom of tripping by posting here should be a red flag, but this line says it all. Lots of people treat psychedelics with this kind of blase approach. I don't mean all of the substances discussed here, I mean shrooms, lucy, 2C's, the things that produce a "classical" psychedelic experience. Also, lots of people have really bad experiences because they, or the people that introduce them, are ill informed or worse, careless and reckless with other people. These aren't toys, and we're talking human beings here.

Yep. I'd be worried too. Now I wasn't saying don't do LSD. I'm saying don't do LSD like its a party drug with a bunch of friends partying on a saturday night when you have major psychic negativity going on. I'd wager a good LSD trip would be very good for sorting out all this emotional material between you and "biatch". But that setting is all wrong.

Google "set and setting" if its a new term to you.

So if no one has taken the time or no one around you has the experience, maybe I can drop just a very basic jumping off point, give you some material to consider, and maybe you'll find it interesting and relevant enough to persue more. Seek out some info and experience and then make educated choices. There are many books and hip people that you could learn from, and garner so much more from psychedelic experiences than just "tripping balls man" at a party.

Again, totally not raggin on you. Absolutely nothing wrong with a little recreational fun. So when you ask "what do I mean" , I mean you can let go of your girlfriend, with love, be appreciative of what you had, love her still as the human being she is, and drop the negative dehumanizing energy inside that in the end, hurts and diminishes you. That's the kind of reasoning psychedelics have given me.

http://www.psychedelic-library.org/staf8.htm
Take a look at that, dismiss some of the clinical talk and try to dig the principles related in that short paper.

Then, here's a good place to start and take it wherever you like from there. May I suggest you read with an open mind, a critical eye, take what you like and leave the rest.
http://www.psychedelic-library.org/persmenu.htm

Peace, Richard

 

Ohhhh, I like that, I'm gonna borrow it, OK?

@ RchrdMnssta,, Wise words coming from Voyage, worth considering.:2thumbsup:


But on the other hand if you are after one of those good old fashioned "OMG!!! What have I done to my life!!!, WHY? WHY? WHY?" nightmare type of trips then don't take LSD, go for a hand full of mushrooms and let The Accuser have he/she/it's (like you have a choice LOL) way with you leaving you a wrung out wimpering shell of a human, but you will have seen into the dark depths of all the why's and wherefore's of your life's roller coaster.

Trust me, I been there a couple o' times, not fun nor pretty, but damn educational.

 

:rofl:

That is another good option as well. :2thumbsup: 5G's of cubes or so oughta do the trick.

 

I like your responses Voyage and Noxious, just kind of find it funny how we moved from a half-tab of acid to 5gs of booms!

Set and Setting are very important, and the way I pictured it was less of a "party" but a get together with a couple of friends, am I right? I would actually change my opinion and say don't go for it if it were a party. If they are just some close friends you can talk to, you'll have a blast and some hopeful relief. It'd be almost.. therapeutic!

In the end though, it is all up to you, if you don't feel comfortable doing it, then just don't do it. It's fine to be a bit nervous, but psyching yourself out into a bad trip could do more harm than good

 

yes it was more like a get together, absolutly no party envoironment, i think we didnt even had music turned on lol. We ended up NOT tripping, but having a great time, maybe we got too drunk and too high lol but it was really fun and my friends are the ones that keep me going and bring me up

Voyage: Thanks for your reply it was a great one! I still love her, but things arent working out right now, so yeah maybe im hiding all the pain but im trying to be the best person i can, and to aproach this situation in the best way i can, thats why i ask for your thoughts cause i still got a lot of emotions going through me and im still not in a clear mindset but im heading there! i hope lol.
Dont worry im not the kind of person that does acid just for the fun of it, i aproach to this substances with alot of respect and i always try to learn something from it, and i do My head its still hurting from the hang over but thanks for ur answears guys, this is my first break up and it was my first love, im not experienced in this situations so i really apreciate ur words and wisdom

 

Awesome thread with some good advice. I found myself completely siding with people who cautioned having the necessary preperations going into a psychedelic experience (ie, being emotionally open/honest, not referring to her as 'biatch' etc) and then nodding in agreement when Black Lotus said just take the dose. I'm not sure where I stand in believing that some % of people who take a psychedelic and are not prepared, come out of it still having the positive learning experience (if jarring to say the least). Is it 50% of unprepared people come out of it ok? Is it 80%? 10%? I really don't know and I think it comes down the exact amount of preparedness there is in the user, along with set/setting/dose and all that.

I think that while OP definitely has anger, frustration, denial, that these things can be present when he takes LSD, and LSD will help him with them. They may cause an unpleasant trip, but I don't think there's any special way to guarantee a pleasant trip period, much less after a 6 year relationship breakup.

My advice would be to do it when you feel like you've done all the mental work you can before hand, trying to be open minded, understanding and forgiving of her (if applicable), and then to dose and be completely at peace with the fact that you may be taken for a bit of a face slap, but maybe that's what your soul is yearning for.

 

i'm sorta with writer...undecided. but i'm glad you decided to not take it that night and to wait until later.

a good time would be when you don't ask yourself this (so much)

not many drug related bad trips would be IMO