http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevius/article/Castro-naked-guys-have-gone-too-far-3867094.php Some of the older guys have been really obnoxious to some friends, local and traveler. I think if one is provoking, or simulating arousal (as noted in article), a line is crossed. The line between natural or prurient.
I'm not sure anything that article notes is fair, though. Yeah, maybe there's distasteful crap..... and flashing people IS a sexual display, and they should be able to do something about it, it's not the same as just being naked.... But the artilce seems to be bitching about genital jewelry, and I could give two fucks, quite honestly..... some people find toe rings on bare feet obscene, too. The article is written with a strong slant and many unfair statements that are literally just name-calling, I can't take the author very seriously. If that author represents this changed public opinion, maybe BOTH camps have changed so that they suck.
I suspect the author means a CBT cage, not typical PAs and such. I think if the skid mark law was enforced, and the pervy ones cited for lewd behaviour, not nudity per se, that the city could get a handle on this. OTOH, people are coming just to see the nude dudes. Almighty tourist dollars and such. I'm personally neutral on them. The dudes I have dealt with are "pouty activist types" to quote a friend. But mostly harmless. Just annoying.
Well I suppose on the other hand, I can see someone who has a problem with clothes at ALL seeing flashing as being pouty activism, not a sexual act.... But yeah, it sounds like it would be possible to reign things in with other laws, without criminalizing nudity.
Right. I think we are in similar territory, roorshack. I'm ok with the nude dudes, if, and this is a big if, they are not being sexually provocative. There is a difference between nudity and exhibitionism in my book. Something about the aggressive "I'm nude and look at me what are you looking at?" attitude my friends encountered tips the scales. If it was simple nudism, why draw attention...because it is just, merely nudity. Like being barefoot is simply not wearing shoes, not catering to foot fetishes. Nope these are old crotchety guys being crass and rude. They are not here to decorate my world. I don't care that they are nude. I care if they leave perianal sweat behind. So enforce skidmark rules, and make sure they are on a towel in public (just as we do at sauna), and come down on the sexually suggestive activity. Oh, pouty activists are the whiny sorts who are all complaint, no suggestions for positive actions. I confess that was me in my early demonstrating days...but I was under 15!
It's San Francisco. The high temperature is like 55 degrees, so no wonder those guys are crotchety. They're going out of their way to be nude where it's not warm enough to enjoy so what do they expect? I wish this were happening in Miami where it makes sense to be nude pretty much all year round.