Anyone know some herbs I can smoke other than weed? I've been smoking nearly constantly since 2007, and I need to get off of it. I'm an addict. I'm not addicted to the effects of it, physiological or anything.... I'm addicted to the act of it. Grinding, packing a bowl, sparking it, inhaling it. Especially if I play video games, watch a movie, etc. I'm not looking for a legal alternative like spice or something.....just a herb that has a real mellow effect. Something I can pack bowl after bowl of and it just mellows me out. Anyone know anything that'll do the trick? And no....no tobacco.
I'd suggest... Wild dagga,skullcap, Blue Lotus or, kratom. Maybe a combination of a few of those. Nothing is like pot at all. But I'd say the closest blend I've made that isn't synthetics is 1/2 wild dagga 1/2 skullcap
lol I don't want it to be like weed, if I wanted weed I'd just continue smoking weed... Just mellow. I'm guessing I gotta look up the effects of these?
Well Dagga gives you a little bit of a head buzz with minor color variations Lotus is good for anxiety and to just chill. Also minor color variations Skullcap is a sedative Kratom is like a pain killer like vicoden or something
I think you'd be quick to find that you are actually 'addicted' to weed itself as opposed to just the act of preparing and smoking it if you were to try any of these legal herbs. If you are insistent that the act of smoking is your problem, then it seems counterproductive in seeking something else to smoke. Kratom can be taken orally and has mild chill effects.
Guerillabedlam, I agree with you more often than not, but I promise Kratom is effective when smoked. you just need 15X or higher. Also that's not the only effect it has in large doses, it's pretty close to heroine or vicoden
No, I get what you mean though. I used to love the effects of weed. Now I actually like being sober much more. Weed has some good effects but it also makes me numb and very slow-minded. To really appreciate things sometimes you need a quick mind. Weeds also been a little too much for me lately. Its been making me trip balls in my mind's eye. I've got photographic memory and weed's been making it go crazy for the past few weeks. It sounds like fun, but its not when you get going on a bad trip and weird fucked up imagery keeps popping up. Its to the point where its like being on a decent amount of shrooms and I can't control it. Its not fun. The first hit is mellow but after that I'm seriously tripping through my mind's eye for 12 hours straight. I'm having to cut back so much that I have to treat weed like shrooms. Can't do it every night, because its an actual trip and I need the right mindset and setting for it. I've been cutting back the past couple weeks and the hardest part for me is the fact that I want to pack bowls and smoke. Not even feel high, just go through the motions of it. Similar to being addicted to cigs where you don't really crave the feeling of it, you crave the act of lighting up and standing around smoking.
I've smoked hookah, and like it. But its not something I like doing chilling on my own. There's also all the cleaning and setting up of the hookah. That and its not the same as packing a bowl. Dumping the ash in the trash, clearing the bowl, packing fresh and sparking it is what I need.
Then smoke weed. Cannabis is probably the least harmful plant to smoke. You can pack a bowl of crushed pine needles of that will get your fix, but I wouldn't reccomend it.
Sorry to differ with you but smoking kratom is a waste. Even if using that ROA catches you some marginal effect, which I don't think it will, it will never be as effective as consuming it straight or extracting it into tea with lemon juice. It's like how every now and then someone makes a thread about crushing up pharmaceutical opiates or benzos and mixing it with their weed, and you always get a couple people insisting that it works. Unless you have a substantial opiate tolerance, kratom (especially the stronger extracts like Ultra Enhanced Indo) provides a high that is smooth, potent and very euphoric. Do yourself a favor and stop smoking something that is not conducive to smoking. OP: look into kanna. It's pretty much exactly what you're looking for, though be careful because as with any "entheogen" some sites stock a lower quality product. I've ordered it from two different suppliers off the internet; the first batch (which was blue and was ordered from a reputable kratom vendor) worked quite well and the second one (ordered from one of the most well-known, if not the most well known entheogen site) didn't do anything at all.
No!!! And how f-ing rude! I take a few enhanced capsules and I feel it a little, but then I like to throw some in a bowl and smoke it. It helps it kick in. And I'll ingest my kratom however I damn well please.
What about Schwag? Or shake? Or salvia leaves? Seems like that would be a cheap way to fulfill the ritual and not get too high.
It'd also be a good idea to quit because I'm unemployed and need a job in the next couple months. Good weed, no matter how much I smoke, gives me the same effect now. Its gotten to the point where I don't enjoy having my mind all clouded and me tripping face.