Do you prefer anarcho-communism?

And this idealistic view of communisim (you know, that human nature WON'T kick in and ruin it all very quickly) is what has ruined it.

Communism is a system that, ideally (and impossibly) would operate IN a state of anarchy, but it is not synonomyous with anarchy. Like any type of society it's a step up from anarchy, which is just a lack of rules. Communism requires strong rules, even if they're only enforced by the individual.

Anarchy could be positive or negative, but the positivity will generally decrease with the number of people in a society -- it's the personal connections that allow small communist or anarchist groups to work. And of course, that means they're not true communism or anarchy anyways.

 

In governments communism anarchy and all, is started by a group of intellectuals who "seem" to understand what they want.

But after that the majority, who are NOT intellectuals, the massess, usually ruin everything their elite had talked about in their writings. Things in politics never go according to the paradise we are all told about. No system is a part of Heaven. Heaven does not exist here...

 

RooRshack, i did not say its a synonym, i said its a form of anarchy.

Celebrating, for me heaven and hell are on earth, no where else. everything is possible, Marx said communism can only come after democracy..think about it..

 

What I said and meant in my above post. They are not physical places.

 

i wasnt talking about physical places either , i was talking about the state of happiness, and the positive perfectness and negative perfectness which is heaven and hell.. its one of those what comes around goes around kinda things...

 

I agree with Psy-astrida

 

I agree with you.

 

i quite like anarcho-communism, i'm currently reading (well, dipping in and out of) a little bit of kropotkin and he has some very good ideas.

 

autophobe2e read plato and marx

 

well I've already read Marx and Engels- both for "personal" reasons and (more in depth) in as much as their work relates to my area of study (adorno and horkheimer being the main Marxist scholars who affect my reading) but i haven't read Plato, is their any particular work which you would reccomend? (i intend to re-read Marx and Engels with more depth once i have more time to pursue my own interests, have you ever read Marx's poetry btw? its some good shit. although i only had time for a passing glance)

unfortunately, while its my "summer" for the next five days, i'll be back at university next week, at which point my reading will have to be more strictly controlled if i'm to pass

 

I know the feeling of not finding time to read..it sucks ass..im taking a year off for that purpose ..i'd recommend you read plato's The Republic..its a life changing book with unlimited ways of looking at it

 

oddly enough, my first week back and republic is one of my texts, although i'm only supposed to read certain extracts as a companion to my required reading which is Thomas More's utopia: have you read utopia?, its pretty interesting, particularly like the methods of discouraging attachment to gold and jewels that he describes.

 

No i have not read utopia, its in my books-to-buy list..