U. N. Environment Report Brings Some Very Bad News

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  1. outthere2

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    ^ Good point. :)

    I posted the picture for humor. I appologize if it came across as condescending.
     
  2. Aerianne

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    I know you did. :)

    I was just blown away by this concept of looking on others as sheeple and kind of wanted to spread the idea around.

    I think it would change the vibration a bit if we didn't feel that division between people who think they are enlightened and people who don't yet care so much.
     
  3. outthere2

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    I hope I don't come across that way. Do I? You can be honest.
     
  4. Aerianne

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    No. I don't think you're snobbish.
     
  5. outthere2

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    Sheeple-think could be a couse of complacency, what do you think?
     
  6. Aerianne

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    I think some people who have been termed "sheeple" have chosen to be complacent. I think other people who have been called that simply may not have been exposed to some of the knowledge that others have.
     
  7. PsychonautMIA

    PsychonautMIA Chimps gonna chimp

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    Quote from carl sagan relating to religion but it conveys the same message. Don't separate yourself from the general public, simply inform.
     
  8. outthere2

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    I agree that calling people names is never constructive.

    With respect to your question:
    I still think sheeple-think could be a cause of complacency. It is a cause of complacency because, in my view, sheeple-think is a result of the corporate media and corporate agenda.
     
  9. Silas Salis

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    I don't know, we do take for granet what we do daily/hourly to our planet. I think, if you see this a joke or a great way to freak people out, this probably went over you heard becaue you are to imcompetent to process the nature of the situation.
     
  10. ameth1

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    Who here has the money to create a news station? Instead of reporting what's hot, we report what is important. Most people only believe there is one giant plastic island drifting in the Pacific Ocean. We need to reach people beyond this forum.

    If we don't act now no one will be able to act later when it matters.
     
  11. Tyrsonswood

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    I believe that's the plan of the corporate elite that run our governments.
     
  12. outthere2

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    For me, it's curiosity and bewilderment that drive me to try to understand politics and culture. I can see how it might come across that way though. Thank you for the constructive criticism :)

    I believe the nature of the environmental situation is that it is in direct competition with the form of global capitalism we're experiencing.

    The globe is being scoured for it's non-renewable precious resources at an unsustainable rate. If the global economic system is not reformed to consider global environmental impact, the planet will undergo "irreversible changes to the life-support functions of the planet."

    Concentration of media ownership (also known as media consolidation or media convergence) is a process whereby progressively fewer individuals or organizations control increasing shares of the mass media.

    Contemporary research demonstrates increasing levels of consolidation, with many media industries already highly concentrated and dominated by a very small number of firms.

    Issue framing in a political context, means presenting an issue in a way that will likely get the most agreement from others.

    QFT
     
  13. outthere2

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    The corporate architects of the global economic system are the destroyers of our planet and the masters of war:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q4LvC0ipVo"]Julie Felix - Masters Of War - YouTube
     
  14. ameth1

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    This all very well true, but unfortunately the only way we're going to change how corporations destroy the environment is by changing how our idea of resources works. Here is the really plain version.

    The way companies have been treated resources is the same as it was back in the industrial revolution. We believed there were enough resources that there would always be enough that depleting them would be impossible. The problem is during the industrial revolution there were about 2 billion people and at that point we could all live comfortable lives with the resources available. The fact remains though there was a wide division between rich and poor in all countries. Those that had still got as much. Not saying anything new here, but this is the interesting part.

    The way corporations work is that the economy runs off of availability of resources. If there is a limited amount of resources and they know another company wants those resources, they're going to take more of those resources so they can make more off of them. The second company knows that the first company knows they plan on taking more resources and so they try to take more resources for bigger profits. Eventually every company is taking more resources than they need to turn a profit but at the cost of heavily stripping the planet.

    Is it okay? No, but they do it and its because they don't want to lose to the competition. Is that okay? Depends who you are. Quite honestly though, we need to factor into the loss of resources for long-term losses as opposed to saving of resources for long-term losses. I think that would probably save a lot more resources than we can do by just saying its the damn corporations fault (even though it is).
     
  15. outthere2

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    Is heavily stripping the planet to turn a profit okay? That's a question proponents of global capitalism don't even consider.

    For them, natural resources are commodities; commodities are to be bought and sold for profit; we all know corporations are driven by profit$$$.
     
  16. Meliai

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    It's fucking hot today. It would be much more pleasant if towns and roads were planned around existing natural landscape and old trees were left, instead of paving over everything and creating this world in which black.asphalt and exhaust from cars co mingle to produce a temp that is ten degrees hotter than a shaded wooded area would be in the same location.

    This seemed like an appropriate place to bitch about that.
     
  17. outthere2

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    The video above was cut a few lyrics short. Particularly refreshing is the last paragraph in the song:

     
  18. outthere2

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    Why all "the-end-is-near" talk?

    Isn't it more responsible to live as if the planet and her people will probably continue on well after we are gone? (Which is more likely)

    If we lived as if there is going to be a next-generation and a generation after that, it would discourage short-term gain at the expense of the next generation; it would seek to leave behind a sustainable future for the next generation.

    The end is near? That sounds like an excuse for irresponsible living.
     
  19. ameth1

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    I like to think of it as a way to get the people ready for what is to come and start acting responsibly. Those that don't care deserve to be shot.
     
  20. Tyrsonswood

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    But they are probably the ones with the biggest guns...
     

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