So this is the unknown smoking blend again. Supposed to be jwh 22 but theres no way to know. Anyway, last night I took 3 huge rips, got very high. I started tripping very hard, id say ++++ psychedelic experience, mind was totally scrambled but in an ordered fashion. I dont know how long I was sitting there, just transcending through this strange dimension. But then something weird happened. This is what I want feedback about. At a certain point, I was aware of another presence. It was just me there, I was aware that I had a self, but there was "something" else there, in my head. "Another" and we were having a sort of debate, or argument, I was certain that I was not alone. I was so gone, I didnt know where I was, or who I was, what time it was, or what I had done. All i know is I was in the confrontational company of some other being, i cant say it was pleasant, because I was so far gone that things like that dont apply in a space like this. But I was certain of this presence, it was just me and him, the whole time. Sitting there. At the begining, I was CONVINCED I was with a friend of mine and we were hanging out. And I was worried, I was like "how am I gonna pay this guy for this experience" and thats where it got a little negative. I didnt know what to do. And then, all of a sudden, I was back. And I realized I was alone. WOW. I ahve NEVER in my life experienced anything like this. I was releived I was alone. Any thoughts on this? Was this presence me? Like I totally hallucinated that I was with another person or whatever you wanna call it the whole time. EDIT: IT does sound a little psychotic, but I have been having VERY beneficial tear jerking awakening experiences with this substance. Its been all good so far, but last night was weird, very weird. I have not been able to translate into a positive life realization like I usually can.
I don't think it's unusual to sense presences on psychedelics... whats the name of the smoking blend?
Interesting it sounds Salvia-esque... Some of these blends and cannabinoid chemicals sound extremely powerful. As far as the presence goes, the scientific side of me believes that with potent psychedelics, especially those that are smoked and have a very rapid onset, overload the brain rapidly with information from the drug and perhaps some discerning aspects of the brain get toned down and so it guesses figures and forms that result in 'entities'. However when I have experienced entities on Salvia Divinorum and DMT they are dramatically different than any sorts of beings that I have encountered in the real world or even the imagination of the real world like movies and stuff. I often feel a sense of other as well when experiencing these entities, which in the moment is so convincing and difficult for me to chalk up to my subconscious or some sort of self reflective hallucination.
There is a SLIGHT salvia feel, its way more though. One must be VERY careful with this stuff. Yeah I cant explain the being at all, it wasnt visible or anything. It was just in my head and communicating with me in a way that I cannot describe. This stuff is extremely potent. Today I smoked some with my buddy but we only smoked like a hit or so and had a really awesome bonding friendship boosting experience. We opened up to each other and became much closer. I have been using this stuff for a little over a week and I can honestly say my life is better. It is showing me things I need to work on and I am doing so. I fucking love this smoking blend, im buying more in a day or so And the name is Purple Diesel. Apparently jwh 22 but no way of knowing
I've gotten way out on these blends, but I've never had an experience quite like that. It's most definitely psychedelic though. I found it to be overall unpleasant most of the time after using it a lot for a long time.
Well I've got two ideas. In my experience with psychedelics, I always seem to find two of myself. Don't know why, it's just a split personality, but there's only one counter part. Replicating the effects of schizophrenia, you may have just subconsciously met a being your mind created, weather a figment of you, or just an imaginary person. Strange how as a child, an imaginary friend is so real, and to be expected, but as you grow older, an imaginary friend is considered a disorder, how do these illusions persist? Another theory, if you believe in astral planes, the psychedelic experience is a very unnatural way to visit the so called "Spirit World" a realm merged with ours beyond the physical plane. In this astral realm are filled with spirits, and these spirits are good or bad based off of the emotional vibes you send off. In this theory, it would infer you merely met a common spirit in another realm. Could you sense this entity? Was it a strong color of light, like an aura? Was it moving?
My experiences with DXM had me feeling similar things at some points. The way I could try to explain it would be there was me, then there was also a "grander me" which wasn't exactly me, but stood outside of my body and controlled it's actions. Almost like my mind is the puppet master of my body, yet on these drugs I would feel that they are two completely separate entities. Shrooms also give me this "puppet master" sort of feeling but a bit more on an earthly level.
Had the EXACT same type of experience very recently myself. I wasn't using any synthetics, just smoked a shit ton (over a gram) of some outstanding hash in the space of two hours, solo. Plus a few hits of Super Lemon Haze. I also went into some odd dialogue with someone/thing that's was simultaneously me and other than me. It reminded me of some of my more "difficult" mushroom trips where I got barraged by "The Accuser". (those that have been there know what I mean) But this wasn't in the same fashion, but was still a dialogue going on discussing life issues. It was a unique first time experience for me as well. It was both uncomfortable and comfortable at the same time. I didn't always care for the topic of conversation, but I didn't feel trapped and forced as I have on similar shroom trips. I didn't feel as if there were someone in the room with me, but did sense a very distinct dichotomy within myself that "felt" like two separate people. Very odd experience to say the least. Must have something to do with hitting a saturation point for certain cannabanoids?
Fuuuccckkkkk. I hate that shit. It doesn't happen too bad to me, but two of my friends that I trip with get it real bad. I remember them calling it the victim of the trip, and it kept going back and forth between them making their trip go horribly south. The last time I tripped with one of these dudes it got really really bad for him and he had a psychotic break. He wasn't in control of himself, and we had to detain him for hours on end to keep him from breaking shit and hurting people. But yeah, I think I know what you're talking about there. Scary shit.
It was in me, I could totally sense it, I could feel it. I was seeing colors but idk the color of the entity if it was inside me. I was just totally aware of its presence and I was having a conversation I could not understand with it. I did not see an entity, it was invisible or in my head or in another dimenstion but I was in direct contact with it. If it was a being at all. I could just be tripping my nuts of and become insane and delusional. It was a good trip in the end, and I am ever so greateful for it. Love
Dude, i get you 100% I fuckin feel you man. On point, I get this all the time, mostly with tryptamines like shrooms, dmt, 4 aces and other trpys.
This is so amazing, how we all experience the same things. I feel you 100% bro! I have had experiences exactly like that too. IM not refering to my OP experience though, that was quite different.
Wow that's really cool pr0ne. I usually find negative side effects increase at a more accelerated rate than positive side effects with smoking blends. I will have to look into this blend. I do agree that many are very very powerful... and I generally have quite a different type of experience, but I hardly ever use blends and when I do they come from the gas station, the head shop, or the sex shop. Maybe shopping other places for blends will help me find one I can properly enjoy.
At first this may come off as a blend that gives you a bad experience and isnt good. But you need to figure it out, keep trying it and you will learn how to accept it. And thats where the magic happens.
