Hello. I'm fairly new to this site, I'm 19 and a young mother, living in London UK. Although my age would be classed as young, I am an old soul, very lost in this modern world, I feel so unnatural being here. Around 2 months ago I experienced enlightenment. It was non drug related but it was very real. I was going through a lot of shit at the time, along with feeling misunderstood and'unreal', I was also confused about love and life in general. I was very low, to the point imi would have happily died if it would make someone, somewhere, understand me. So I decided to just ask, i dont know who i was asking but I said out loud 'Show me what's out there'... I was instantly bombarded with visions, meanings, truth. I saw things that I can't even describe, it only lasted for 20 seconds max, although it seemed like lifetimes. I came into realisation, of the truth behind the government, behind the modern day society, behind the morals and stereotypes we are stuck with from birth. I saw beauty, I saw pain, I saw a world at peace without pain. Everything about me changed, my personality, my vocabulary, the way I live my life just changed, in that moment. I realised that we are all part of this greater being, although we seem to be individuals, and we are, we are also one being. If i try to explain it to anyone i usually describe it this way...... I am a wave, a wave of a pulse, the pulse of the universe. You are a wave, a wave of the same pulse, but a different wave to me. We are different but ultimatley we are the same. The pulse is the heart of our universe, every being is a wave of this pulse, each wave has major significance and each wave can cause major chaos. Right now, in our world, our pulse was broken, it only took one wave but millions followed and we altogether caused suffering. The only way to be rid of this suffering is if each wave realises what's happened and starts fresh. To go back and blame a single wave for all the suffering would be wrong, we must all take responsiblity together, realise together and rebuild together.. I know I'm rambling, I needed to speak out. There is only one person in real world life that i know who understands, who has also seen the beauty of things. I found a guy on YouTube called Ram Dass, he speaks everything I think and would definitely be worth a watch if anyone's interested. One day, the world will come into realisation, war will be no more, money will be no more, humans and animals and plants will live as one, share the world as we should. Never yearn for things of the past, never anticipate the future, be here now, because now is what counts. Apologies for this post, hopefully some like minded people can understand me, life is beautiful once you see past the lies of society, forget the governments, forget money and war, feel the world, celebrate life rather than mourning it, celebrate every blade of grass, he may not seem as much significance as you, if you think that way then ask yourselves what significance do you have? Love everyone and everything! Feel the love Peace and love to you all!!
Absolutely sounds like what I've experienced on psychedelic trips. It's very interested you've experienced this all on your own. Some might call it satori. Ram Dass is wonderful. You might also be interested in listen/reading Alan Watts too. Mooji is a pretty good guru type who's on youtube. Eckhart Tolle is probably up your alley too! The first time I used a psychedelic, I realized there was SO much more to experience in life. Why are we taught to live such dull lives? There's so much to watch and enjoy, life can be so rich! I felt as if I was deprived of something. We all know this state as children, but we eventually learn to put it away and it is forgotten. I use psychedelics to help me learn how to live a richer, more fulfilling and meaningful life. Great post
Funny as Mooji lives just down the road from me, I have plans to go and find him in the near future, when I watch him talk I don't see the grown man that he is in form, I see a young soul, one that just really needs a hug and to know that everything will be okay. It was a crazy experience, one that I can't even describe. After researching a lot about it I did find that many saw what I saw through drugs, I see drugs as almost like a 'pass' to the otherside of life. You don't need drugs to get there, but physically trying to get there will not work, it has to come to you. I've tried to get back there so many times, for days afterwards I was in an almost trance state filled with euphoric feelings, the feeling has never died, its unobstructed but it sometimes gets drowned out by 'everyday life'. I actually sat down and decided that I was crazy, I spent hours questioning what to do about being crazy, then I said to myself, actually if this is crazy then I don't want to be any other way because I like this, i like knowing the truth and i like helping others to remember. As a mother I've made a vow to try my best to not let my daughter forget, I see what she knows everytime she looks into my eyes and it saddens me that one day she may forget.
Beautiful post. I have not listened to Ram Dass but I will. Thanks for telling us about him. I'm glad you're with us here. :sunny:
Guess what? You are not at all crazy. Know that you know the truth. The vale has been lifted from before your eyes. Now, you've seen the truth. Hold fast to the truth. You have seen reality. The REAL reality. Now the people of the Earth's reality. Eternal reality. The world is crazy. You are completely sane. Now YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. Keep your head. Get it that the others are crazy. You have started a very beautiful thing here, by opening yourself up, and by starting this forum thread. May it create the largest and most beautiful blossom MamaPeace, thank you. And thank you for being You. :sunny: Kenny
Thank you! It's so great knowing that I'm not alone! Funny how the feeling of being one big being actually creates loneliness I've had a manic few weeks, trying to work out if right now is real, am I really human? I went through a stage of thinking all the worlds suffering was my fault, I knew this great truth so why wasn't it helping people? I worked something out about suffering I'd like to share if there is any interest! Sadly, right now with the state our earth and man kind is in, suffering has to happen it will all be over soon, once everyone realises! I'll explain in more details soon I can't wait for the day that everybody wakes up and comes into realisation, imagine their faces it will be like billions of newborn babies being reborn into their true world. No anticipation though, I'm pretty certain I have a few more lifetimes to forget and remember before things will be as they should be. For now I'm going to camp out with you guys and feel the love!
You said, "I went through a stage of thinking all the worlds suffering was my fault, I knew this great truth so why wasn't it helping people?" Wise. or wizand (like wizard) One now understands all things. Here it is. You've seen. You know. Knosis or gnosis. Look that up if you need to. Similar the gnostic. The vale has been lifted. I don't know how you did it. Perhaps God did it, and not you. You merely asked and received. Do you think? However, Just because you do have all of this knowledge (Knosis) that does not mean that anything is your fault. You did nothing to be at fault. And if you told them all, no one would listen. There is the real joke. Nothing can ever be your fault. However we should try to show others. I feel that. That is my purpose.
I read "Be Here Now" by Ram Das way back in the early 70's, when I was young. I also lived in a commune called the Santa Fe Youth Hostel in 75 & 76. It was run by a group called the Christ Brotherhood. We gave between 50 to 150 people a free place to stay every night. There were many other times in my life that I felt I had become enlighten, only to find that it was a baby step in my evolution. It's like the Buddha that climbs the mountain and ponders self enlightenment and attains it, only to come down the mountain, go to the bar and get drunk. I think this sweet young woman will realize eventually, that life is a series of evolutionary enlightenment steps. It would be nice if we could attain total enlightenment all at once, but I don't think even Jesus did it, that's why he disappeared from the time he was twelve until he was thirty. He had to travel all the way to India and Tibet to learn all the secrets of the truth, before he become who he became. Ram Das had a massive heart attack a few years ago and is now pretty incapacitated, living the remainder of his life in Hawaii. He will soon check out of this planet, then he will take a very big leap in his evolutionary enlightenment.
From what I hear her saying, she has seen a massively very big leap. Far greater that I or very many others. Just listen to the silence of the other posts.
I couldn't even begin to explain what happened to me. It really was like I asked and received but the knowledge I received was in an instant. It's like I knew it already but I'd just forgotten, it all came flooding back in seconds, it completely changed my life! Not just the way I see things but it completely changed who I am. I see it like this. We are all given a book when we are born, the book of life. It's written there for us from the moment we are born, mapped out. Some get bored of the book and forget to read, others try but dont understand. I started reading, got bored, put the book down but one day I came back to this book and instead of carrying on where I left off, I read the end. I skipped out the whole 'you will go to university, get a degree, get a 9 to 5' and I jumped straight to the end, the ultimate message, the ultimate truth. Reading a book from the end is confusing but it makes sense, everything I ever wondered about became knowledge, everything I wanted to know I found. I no longer need to live in what ifs because I know what will come and its bloody brilliant
You are lucky then. Many people have asked for insight like you but did not receive it like that. I also think there are other people that found enlightenment like this but are still stuck in a 9 to 5 job I guess in some situations enlightenment will not get you out of daily struggles...
I'll probably have a permanent job one day. I've never been there before, it feels/seems so unnatural and weird to me even though its the norm. But I'm just strange! :2thumbsup:
I don't think you're that strange. Many people have this insight you told us here but that doesn't mean they can get out of the rat race.
Getting out of the rat race is just a matter of self image. If you don't let society fool you into being the way they expect you to be, you can live for free. This country wastes enough food every day to feed the rest of the world. Dumpster diving behind grocery stores will give you more than you can eat. Dumpster diving for clothing and a blanket is just as easy. Any time you get sick, just go to free clinics or the E.R.. Hitch hiking is free. For ten years I hitched from D.C. to California, and from Montana to Key West. There are plenty of folks that panhandle for a living. Jesus said that the plants and animals don't work for a living, yet God takes care of them. And God does the same for people. Most people in this country are fooled into believing that they actually earn a living, but truth is everything that everyone has is given to them by God. Most are fooled into believing they must keep up with the Jones's, and have a $200k house and drive a new car. It's shameful for them to be less than middle class. That's what makes them slaves to the rat race.
Oh totally. Problem is, he died to show people how easy it is and how all these extras we are born with don't matter but people misinterpreted it, im not religious at all, very atheist infact, but I believe the messages most religions have been trying to portray just got looked at the wrong way! each prophet (jesus, Mohammad etc) ended up leaving us with the wrong message.
my dear sweet little sister don't you dare give anyone else other than yourself any portion of the credit for your inlightewnment. it's all yours and it tasts so sweet because its of you. look at the word "inlightenment. it comes from within. mine came this way. loneliness is my companion, sleep my dearest friend. I don't know where my life will end up, but I sure know whereit's been. And looking back on days long passed, the future comes upon me much too fast and my happiness lies in between. in between the poems i've read, the prayers i've pled, the tears i've shed. but its all in my head. and the best i can do is try and get a better view and see if its true that the truth shall set you free, that cheaters never win and if you dont get it right this time you have to come back and do it again. so was it me or was it you or was it something that i read? Is it a lie or is it true? or just something some one said? Have we all been here before? Will we be here again? and when we knock on heavens door, will someone let us in? For if there's a God in heaven, and i'm sure that there must be perhaps he will answer some of my questions before he judges me. Like, "God, why did you send me here without instructions or a clue? Was I supposed to figure out who I am? or find my way back to you? Was I supposed to find an answer to a question i was never asked? and if this is so then i'd like to know for what purposae was i given this task? And besides if i was with you in heaven before i came to this place. it doesnt seem fair that i had to leave there if i did something bad and made you mad we could have talked face to face. but we will have that talk before long and until then i dont know if im right or im wrong but through my own spoken word, my ears have heard what my heart has known all along. sorry about the length but i hope you got what im saying. baby sister its from nobody but you not even god can give inlightenment wow i need to take a nap love to all. old man mike bedell 1964
Mind is full, Ill write some stuff here, not specifically to be read but so it can just be written. I imagine a comet floating through space, completely alone, but somewhat content. He happens to cross paths with a planet, they collide and create chaos, the planet explodes into a million pieces. Now there are a million beings all suffering, accidental suffering, chain reaction. The comet and exploded planet then hate eachother, throwing the blame around. Did the comet cause the suffering? Was it his fault that the planet was in his path, could he have avoided it? did the planet cause the suffering? Wrong place, wrong time? could the planet have altered his path so as to not be in the way? Both beings, a million pieces of suffering, will never come to an agreement on who was wrong. The suffering was unavoidable to a spectator. Now it could go both ways, either both beings continue to fight with eachother, throwing blame, hate, guilt in eachothers direction or they could both stop. Stop the suffering, they could agree to disagree even, forgive that the mistake caused suffering, forgive the way they re acted towards the situation and they could live together, peacefully, as one happy being rather than a million suffering beings. Had that comet never hit that planet, had that planet never gotten in the way of the comets path then neither will have realised. Each being will have stayed seperate, floating through life without knowing the true beauty of things. Had they not hit then they would not know. The suffering each of them felt, the pain, upset and hurt was the only way to their realisation, and it was beautiful. They felt hate, guilt, whatever, but then they realised, if they carried on that way then no problem would become solved, they forgave themselves and eachother, and continued to live, but as one being, peacefully amongest eachother. There is no such thing as realisation without having something to realise. Right now, in order to feel the beauty, you must also feel the pain, in our world that is realisation.