Is mescaline really as subtle as they say it is?

Or does it matter what form you take it in how subtle it is? Is it more of a body high than anything else?

And whether taken in pill or cactus form, are you guaranteed to puke no matter what?

 

A good dose is far from subtle. You will know your tripping.

Some people do not puke, some do, it depends on your body. But eating the whole cactus can be rougher on your stomach then say an extraction.

 

I've primarily had San Pedro cacti and one extracted low dose of mescaline and have not puked on either of them. It's subtle in a way compared to acid and mushrooms as Mescaline lacks the edginess of acid and is more clear headed than mushrooms.

San Pedro can have a strong body trip component but you can also get fairly intense visuals that are unique compared to the psychedelics I mentioned above. I also get some interesting auditory distortions with mescaline that I haven't really got on much else. Like Shrooms, the natural feeling of San Pedro is amazing in nature.

 

I found it subtle only in that it doesn't bombard you with information and ideas, but sort of draws you towards nature in a way that encourages you to change your behavior by seeing through the divisions created by the ego. You are able to function normally but it doesn't feel right, you feel like the native mesoamerican who has a real connection with nature and does not empathise with western ways and their disconnect from nature.

 

Awesome. Sounds like what i'm looking for. Thanks for the info.

 

Your not guaranteed to vomit every time. There were a few experiences when I shit out the green cactus, or not vomit at all.

It's a total high. ALL Mind, ALL Body, Everything in existence, FREEDOM. It's amazing

 

Agreed it depends on the dose and if it is fresh or dried ...... i have had the two extremes journeyed on a fresh cactus my height for shamanic medicine lasted 18 hours and real sick at first - life enhancing trip ... pure magik... I recommend nature and good company and set up a space to rest.

Then the dried which I put in vodka or gin and top up with fresh gin or vodka all thru out the spring/ summer. Which is gentle sparkly and extremely mellow. Easy at large or small gatherings and festivals.

Enjoy

 

ya, unless you sniff all the chloroform during the extraction process//. ya might not want to do that.. but its pretty subtle ..

 

It's subtle only at low doses or in cactus material that is lacking in alkaloids. All too often this is the case with San Pedro clones circulating in the states.

My Peyote and Bridgesii experiences have been anything but subtle.

 

I remembered the mesoamerican thing in this post during the middle of my San Pedro trip the other day and i'm glad i found this post again because that's exactly how i felt i had no interest in looking at my computer screen or even listening to music for some reason. It really is subtle i did a lower dose though but still got some decent visuals and a good worthwhile experience. I wish i would have thrown up and i'd probably have a lot more energy. Instead i would feel like it several times during the trip and never succeed purging. :2thumbsup:

 

i took a gelatenized mescaline dose similar to a tab of acid, except that the gelatin was attached to the paper. i took a few tabs, but it was subtle while i was with people. when i decided to go to sleep, when i closed my eyes, i turned into a salamander 8D

 

Haha, subtle at a low dose. But it can turn into one of the biggest spiritual experiences of your life, you may feel that you are talking to spirits or GOD! CEVs are suppose to be sooo incredible that you are building crisp clear full of detail landscapes in your mind.

It's suppose to be a lot more clear headed as some people have mentioned, but at the right dose, it is far from subtle!

 

Definitely not mescaline.
Mescaline cannot fit on paper or a gelatin sized square in a full dosage.

If im taking extracted acetate or Hcl salts i start with 300mg and thats a minimal dose. Thats nearly half of a small capsule taken up. No way that much mescaline can fit on a couple geltabs or even 10 geltabs. Im guessing you probably took a research chemical that was sold as mescaline (quite common).

 

damn, what a shame. can you explain that to me though? how can it fit/not fit?

 

Wanted to reply and then read this. It says it all. :sunny:

 

The effective dose of mescaline is too high. I think its somewhere around 600 - 700 mgs (could be very wrong there, though) ....and thats just too much material to fit onto tabs.

Some RC's and LSD, though, are active at much lower quantities .... (100 micrograms and up) ...so they can be put on tabs.

 

i see, i see. what might the gelatenized substance have been then? i've seen it in green, blue, and yellow, but was made to think that was just to tell the difference between batches. it cracked a bit when we cut it, and turned slightly jelly when i left it in my mouth. the paper and the gelatin separated. i dunno if you have any ideas, if not, oh well :sunny:

 

I dont really know much about Research Chemicals....I tend to steer clear of them.

There're a lot of people on here that know a lot about them though, so I'm sure you'll get a decent answer from one of them

 

I took 2ce once, and I really felt it was evil, it was not good, and at the same time I had Bridgessi tea on hand, so I sipped it seeking help from real mescaline, the bridgesii was WAY stronger, and yet, not evil and made me feel better

don't take synthetic mescaline RCs is my advice

 

you trip pretty fucking hard off of mescaline

try eating legit peyote or dose around 45g+ of peruvian torch. Maybe you guys calling it too subtle are used to dosing ten strips of acid, but, personally; if I eat anything more than 30 or 40g of peruvian torch, I'm tripping pretty hard. 20g is subtle.