Hawaiian baby woodrose ? Help please

I decided on doing HBWR seeds again.
I have a question about my first trip
I ate (8) seeds and didn't see any color changes, visuals, or any crazy stuff while on it.
I ate a lot before I did it and a decent amount in the middle of the trip which made me really sick. Did eating minimize the trip?
I resisted throwing up, I laid flat on my bed the whole entire trip.
Would it of been better if I threw up?
I read a few trip reports about when they threw up the trip started happening
is this true?
Would I throw up blood since I'm not eating at all?
Can I drink water?
What am I doing wrong?

I'm planning on trying it again this week.
Please help me out.
Thank You sooo much.

 

Having a full stomach will mean that the onset of the trip is a lot slower. Throwing up wont trigger a trip, I'd say thats just a myth.

You should also never throw up blood. Throwing up blood is a bad sign, at any time. Throwing up on an empty stomach means you throw up bile, the horrible yellow stuff thats in your stomach.

I suppose you could try just upping the dose, some people have a natural tollerance to certain chemicals, even Psychedellics.

 

Don't munch much food before hand, and also - what strain you got? do you know?
There's a wide variety from different parts of the world, some more potent than others - that may be the problem.
Also, with LSA you're not really looking for the visual stuff, it's not a very visual trip at all. It's more the head space, watch your mood and thoughts, best way to tell if you're feeling them.

 

My experiences with LSA have all been closer to rolling than tripping but somehow different than both. The first time I ate ten HBWR I did get patterns however that was the only time I got visuals. I've always taken it on an empty stomach. I've only done HBWR 3 times the majority of my LSA experience has been morning glory which I find to be less reliable than HBWR.

 

Do this:

1. Fast for 12-24 hours.
2. Peel and grind up 12-16 seeds. The more finely ground the better.
3. You can put this in a small amount of icecream or yoghurt, or put it in a sandwich
4. Eat and wait
5. Enjoy

No reason you can't drink water. Your GI tract will probably be in some turmoil for some time so until that's over it might be wise not to eat. Some suggest vasodilators which might be a good idea, I haven't used them and was fine the first time, not so fine the second. Make of that what you will.

 

For me, the vasoconstriction effects seemed to accumulate over time. I'd say a vasodilator would be useful or even necessary if someone were to use these seeds every few weeks for awhile.

The point someone made earlier about differenct strains of hbwr is an important one, I think. I've had mind blowing effects from just 7 seeds before, although its possible im just more susceptible to them.

OP, did you not feel anything from the seeds other than nausea? Is it possible you've got the wrong seeds?

 

I'm amazed when people say that LSA is not visual. Maybe I'm highly sensitive to psychedelics, but I've had sensational open and closed eye visuals while on LSA.

 

Yeah there are visuals, but compared to LSD, shrooms or whatever.. they're shit stains on the psychedelic windscreen of trippiness.

I got some pretty intricate CEV's on 15 HBWR, but they're washed out and faded.. If other psychs visuals were 100W lightbulbs, LSA's visuals are the energy saving lightbulbs right as you turn them on, not once they've warmed up.
I'm not dissing LSA though, I love it - but it's not up there in terms of crazy visuals

 

I must disagree with that, I've had the most amazing CEV's on 7 hbwr seeds. Each time I'd shut my eyes, I'd be transported to some sort of alien circus tent, surrounded by different bizarre acts.

For me, those CEV's were only rivalled by those of Mescaline and Ayahuasca (in my experience)

 

Wow, really? these things are crazily unpredictable..

 

Yeah, you could say that again! I usually get one of these two effects, or get them in alternating patterns:
1. "The Big Derp" Where I feel extremely sedated and inebriated, my speech is slowed to almost slow-mo and I cannot stop laughing. I typically get a lot of noodle-legs at this time, and I don't feel like moving much at all. I don't feel like much thought is happening, and the visuals are no more than everything looking clear, difined and possibly morphing size slightly.

2. "The Acid Trip" That classic tryptamine feeling, thoughts racing a mile a minute. Much insight and empathic thought occurs during this phase. Colours are much brighter, I see trails, and patterns are slightly moving back and forth seemingly more complicated and intricate the more I stare at them. It feels as though many events are happening around me (such as inanimate objects moving closer out of my sight), even when nothing at all is happening.

I think the best thing to do is experiment with LSA. Personally, I don't work with anything other than Ololiqui and Hawaiian Baby Woodrose as I just cannot achieve the results I've been looking for with morning glories. Even when working with these seeds, potency is never really consistent. I'd reccomend 7-10 HBWR seeds for a lighter dose, and 15-20 seeds for a stronger dose. From experience, ololiqui is alot more random than that and can take 80-150 seeds for a typical dose for me. HBWR is more heavy on the nausea end, but was more potent in the visual variety (at least the ones that came from Hawaii). The ololiqui I ordered from Peru were more dominant in the sedating/euphoric effects (similar to the Indian strain of HBWR I've tried), but the body load was much lighter than that of the baby woodrose. Hope this helps.