Nihilism Among Christians

Now what would the pope say to that? Those are heretic teachings.

One aspect of nihilism is that it denies a purpose or meaning of life.

That makes it pretty incompatible.

 

That's my point: The bible says, quite pointedly, that their god chooses whether they're going to heaven or hell, in many verses, therefore nothing they do matters, so there is no purpose or meaning in life for them. They can't change the outcome, they have no purpose themselves ... nihilism.

 

The bible says so many contradicting things that can be interpreted in so many contradicting ways it'll make your head spin.

As I said the pope would call this view heretic. He would also call himself a christian.

 

Who cares what the pope says. Only catholics should feel obliged to listen to that figure. Talk about christian charicatures

 

Not me. I was just trying to illustrate a point.

 

Yeah, I don't get your point about predestination. In Christianity there is, and always has been, free will. A Christian can be saved, can be washed free of sin, and still reject God later, at any moment thereafter, return to sin, and go to hell. "Once save, forever saved" has never been my experience with Christianity. I wish it were that simple - it would be quite easy to be a Christian if that were the case. Catholics wouldn't have much need of a confession booth, if "we (didn't) have to worry about confessing".

 

gothicly blackened , one shall love within pathos and
complain deeply in every kiss . why ? to sing

 

I would say christianity has less to do with nihilism and more with a literal death cult. This life is just a husk with greater rewards waiting believers in death imagined or otherwise.

Death cult.

 

Replete with human sacrifice.

But being of the cult, that version is a cultural affectation.

 

Different denominations believe very differently, no doubt.

Predestination is very pointed though, and denies free will.
Romans 8:29-30
Romans 9:11-22
Romans 11:7
1 Peter 1:2
2 Timothy 1:9
Titus 1:1
Luke 18:7
Acts 13:48
Ephesians 1:3-6
Ephesians 1:7-8
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

 

You can say I have a predestination to die

but

What will be done, is done.

 

What if the universe is the mind of god?
like this:


And what if the cosmos is the gray matter of god?
like this:

If that’s reality, predestination could make sense.

 

Or, creation is a law without opposite.

 

There is only the extant and in that sense you could say, predestined.

 

i know where i am going says the X'ion .
i will do as god instructs .
~ turn left and give the first bum a buck ~
i shall . left . here you go friend .
* thank you .
no , thank god .
* really i do just thank you . bless you . why are
you on this miserable street ?
i know where i am going says the X'ion .
* unto heaven ?
it's as far as i know .
~ ya , tell the bum how you know ~
sir , i've some little thing to say .
* scuse me gotta go .

 

I always found the concept of a somehow greater afterlife once death is achieved to be one of the more morbid concepts in many religions. The idea that this life is nothing more than a meaningless march toward death in which you will finally reach some kind of reward.

Death cult.

 

That is one concept, there are many others. There is certainly the potential in any moment to expand our capacity for appreciation in this life.

One of the most insidious I think, is the idea that we can fairly evaluate the world on the basis of a sliding scale called good and evil.

 

Agreed.

 

shall any life concept actually be meaningless ?

 

Everything arises from conception.