Can you go to Jail for selling big amounts of legal drugs off as real ones?

Ahh ok thanks bro... Now I see why they sell certain stuff as "Bath Salts"

The pigs iggy: will always find a way to keep someone from getting high, or making money.

 

It's actually called "presenting a nonscheduled substance as scheduled". Rarely do local LEO's call on the analogue act but can. If you really want your answer look to the recent customs seizure of (I believe) 2-3 lbs. bk-MDMA. Large amounts for profit alerts the DEA, and they WILL invoke the analogue act; if you're caught shipping that much, that uncontrolled as controlled shit carries weight. They did after all emergency schedule it along with MDPV & 4-MMC as a result.

Now look. If you publicly decry to go to Peru to an ayahuasca retreat, that'll be like a fucking ridiculous felony.

We are all going to have to keep quiet and soon where our travel plans to say Netherlands or B.C.'s Cannabis Cups are concerned.

It feels like "1984", "Do Electric Sheep Dream?", "Atlas Shrugged", & "Brave New World" tied into one nondemocratic nightmare.

 

Well, I am a real one, and this is how it really works. Nothing will happen. A federal, district, or county attorney is not going to waste time charging you with something, having you get a Public Defender, transferring the case to district court if its a county thing, having six months of docket calls, having a week of suppression motions that take a judge a month to decide, three days of jury selection, a five day trial with the jury sequestered, only to have the jury say it was fake and he knew it so he didn't sell a controlled substance, and being acquitted, or somehow being found guilty then appealing, three days of hearings at the appellate court, then the state supreme court, then US district court because you told someone it was dope and it was fake. Meanwhile your lawyer, a real one assigned for you for the appellate courts who charges the state, racks up taxpayer money. u might spend a few days in jail cause u pissed off the cops, but it will be dropped at your arraignment or will be 'prosecution declined.' local imitation laws are rarely used cause juries don't give guilty verdicts in those cases, and county attorneys who bring charges like that and follow through are quickly reassigned to divorce cases because the court administrator has a budget that she cannot exceed without legislative action, and she is not going to spend it on 49 imitation cases and go in front of the state legislature and say 'we spent the budget on people who told someone it was dope but it was really cake mix. give us money so we can do more cases like these.' which will be broadcast on local public TV and in the newspapers. no. nothing will happen. but don't try selling it to me

 

Attempt to distribute a counterfeit substance. I believe it's worse in some states than having the actual substance lol.

 

If you look at this recent article from Peoria, IL, you'll see a few people arrested for "delivery of a look-alike substance." http://www.pjstar.com/news/police/x1347549280/More-than-30-people-face-charges-after-Summer-Camp

Two summers ago, at a festival, some people I met were saying someone they knew was arrested for selling blank blotter.

So, even if it's not an analogue, even just paper, you can get arrested. I'm not sure where it's going from there, but as you can see from the article, you may get your name in the paper which could be a little dangerous even if the legal system doesn't get you.

I don't know why you are asking, but if anyone does know anyone who might try this, they should strongly advise against it. You will really face both the law and anyone who might be pissed about it.

I think it's almost more dangerous with an substance that is similar to whatever someone is selling. People may be on contraindicated medication, or have a medical condition, which makes whatever the substance actually is deadly. (This can also be a problem if you cut something with anything but the most innert substance, such as inositol. Trying to cut something that numbs or tastes like the substance you are cutting, can cause all kinds of trouble for people on meds, diabetics, etc.)

The kid from Blaine who got "2c-e" (or whatever it was) for his friend who died, is going to spend 10 years in jail for third degree unintentional murder. It was a legal substance when he delivered it, and he didn't say it was anything else. Not only does he probably feel that he's responsible for killing his friend, but they are intent on ruining his life too.

So be careful, and educate anyone you provide any substance to as to exactly what it is, how it works, and what the risks are. Don't sell to strangers. Don't cut with anything that mimics the substance and don't hide the fact that you cut it.

(The last part about not hiding that you cut something may sound strange, but it really isn't a problem if what you give them is still quality. If you cut too much, then no one will be happy whether you tell them or not. Many years ago, I used to sell cocaine, unfortunately, but everyone knew that we cut it with inositol because we told them. It was still better than anything anyone else had, so it wasn't a problem. Most people knew exactly what we paid for it too. If you need to hide that information, you are trying to make too much money or cut it too much.)

 

Actually context is everything here. Yes sir you are correct in most cases regarding the legality and court related issues, puffertw. In fact I was arrested for possession of some research chemicals and since laboratory analysis could only prove for the most part they were all but one very small baggies of substances not illegal nor packaged in such a way that couldn't and wouldn't be presented as illicit. A tiny bit of ketamine was the exception, but since I explained to my Public Defender that it was purchased for college research just like the 2C-T-2, 2C-E, and 25I-NBOMe. Furthermore I explained to her that it was sold to me online as methoxetamine, for research purchaces of course ONLY from a
retailer no longer an online shop. The District Attorney was explained my unfortunate incarnation for 5 days over the malicious and unbelievably shocking details of it all and how I was going to get an attorney from MAPS and plead 'not guilty' thus requiring taxpayer dollars to get a jury together. I also vowed to go to the media. Seriously man. And though I'm sure the DA would have charged me but instead threw my ketamine possession charge out, even publically announcing that it was a bizarre hearing and decision.

Really I was crafty and ballsy enough to take the law on, and because I was such a pain in the ass that the DA simply didn't want to deal with me. There are realistic ways to take on The System.

 

a man after my own heart. when I was charged once with three dope felonies I went through 3 years of docket calls and motions and 5 state paid lawyers till they gave up and dismissed everything
heh

 

Edit: I already made a post in this thread so I removed my second one which was basically the same thing.

 

You may wish you had been put in jail after the beating you get from a customer who thinks he bought the real thing. Not a good idea.

 

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unless he is a real dork.

 

yeah, i knew someone who got busted for some oregano he was trying to rob somebody with. guess he got what he deserved in a way, but yeah it's that bad if people are getting busted for oregano. imagine what would happen if the substance was actually psychoactive.

 

good example

 

i seen people arresd for selling soap as crack.
Intent to sell a conterfieght substance is the same charge as Intent to sell a controlled substance......

 

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