did people change in the last 20 years?

I think it's not so bad. People are getting out. Fact is the majority is not intellectual anyway so nowadays it seems everyone is learning via the internet (and they do) but the majority of those peeps would not have been bookcracking if they lived let's say 30 years ago anyway. Most people that do crack books are stimulated by education or their own intelect and curiousity to go out and go to the source and still do. Although a person is influenced by it's surroundings, if they would change back I bet it would appear people have not changed chronically. Yes, as long as they are in their changed surroundings they can obviously show different behaviour than their ancestors and even than their parents generation. But it doesn't change people in the longterm (yet).

 

it's interesting to note two other ideas that purport to be differences:

the opinion of those who were born in the 50's ( lets call them hippies) and who have seen the change in technology, up to todays current situation

and the ideas of those born 16 years ago and who just accept the technology they are born into

I don't think technology has anything to do with how we treat each other. If a person is a dick head before the internet, he is a dick head today on line.

 

What really happened over the yearz is people became smarter and dumber at the same time... instead of ingesting new ideaz and thoughts; while staying who they were ... they changed...

Plus

Basically what I am trying to explain iz... with new technology they lost who they were and now cant find themselves again...

Technology is not the all greatest...

Think about it... when computerz first came out we were awe inspired and needed it more than anything...

Now most people are pissed because of the lag, slow processors, atm chargez, automated services, people consistently tampering with our personal computer "especially for hippie spirited people"...


People have changed ... they lost their individual identiez and became tech zombies... but now that it iz over they are just wandering around looking for the next big whatever...

It is very hard for simple minded people to see individualz it is much easier to force them into categories



For example most of the people here on thiz site are individualz ...... but still they have to classify each of you as hippies .... it iz all in how the basic mind workz...



May the divine bless us all...

 

Yeah you are right if they are a problem before the internet they still are......

but one thing can be added now ....


They have something to hide behind now and talk crap or screw over people with .... without being seen "com-puter".

Or stealing your hard earned money by grabbing your identity or card numberz ; or many of the video gamez
are straight up jacking your kidz....
"please spend time with your kidz and the gamez they play because some of them are stealing or showing them bad thingz"....

That is the new game

 

Folks are gonna use whatever means they have to rip you off.

WE have spent years, giving a credit card to a complete stranger, when we go to a restaurant. But we are concerned about theft on the net.

There are thousands, millions of young folks changing the world today, they just arn't congregating in San Fran this summer

 

Seems like you dislike the developments technology has on society. That's understandable but it clouds your objectiveness in my opinion. I agree wit uitar9. Just because the game changes doesn't mean the people have changed. The fact they are adapting this new technology to their old behaviours is typical human. People have always used the means available to rip other people off. They have not become tech zombies nor lost their individuality. And people have always put eachother in categories. I don't see change there at all.

 

Folks are just being folks

There have been differences since the world began

I live on a hill, you live in the valley, one of us is better

Live your life the way you want to live it-if you step on someones toes they'll let you know.

You wanna make a difference, volunteer-run for elected office-work for a non profit

or do nothing, work, pay your bills, smoke some herb and read a good book

There is tons to do in life-I choose to ignore the dick heads

 

Hmpphh I must agree with some of your aspectz uitar9 and asmodean ... I will have to contemplate a bit farther into the area before commenting farther...

Write some more on this aspect therefore I might receive a more solid ideal of your theory...


The reason I bring this to point iz ... for example there is really not much going on in the tech world lately... But people are still buying phones and such that have added patches and updates... itz the same stuff with different labelz...

The gaming industry has been practically destroyed by big business; "quantity over quality."


Yess I see a lot of negativez ... but isnt it time to stop running from what is obvious...


The developmentz of tech is not what I dislike ... it iz how they are used and abused... and then real potential is thrown away .... thiz haz led to a never ending loop of loss... but it doesnt seem as if most are smart enough to stop thiz ... until ................


Damn the Glass Onion.....



lol

 

I saw this beginning with the 286 microprocessor in the mid to late 80's. Before we figured out what all it could do we moved on to the 386. That one was scrapped for the 486 long before we fully utilized the capabilities of the 386... Endless spiral of planned obsolescence from there on out with no plan for recycling past tech. The same thing can be seen in the transition from tape to CD's then DVD, now Blueray. Just try to find a new tape deck of decent quality... You can't! It's all done just to keep people buying more stuff... But that's tech... the thread is about people.

Yes, people have changed over the past 20 years, but the biggest change I've noticed, at least in the US, is over the last 6-7 years. It used to be I could go just about anywhere and even though I was "different" that was somehow okay. Now if my political views are slightly different from that of the norm I become "the enemy"... WTF is that all about? You can no longer "agree to disagree" with a neighbor or co-worker, it's now a reason for a fight. (either verbal or even physical) No matter what your views are, you are seen as either far left or far right and there's no meeting ground in the middle. (insert rich or poor, black or white, or whatever you want in that statement and it still can be seen) Before this time it wasn't even important.

 

Light is right , one of the major changes I see from 20 or 30 years ago stemming from technology is the rapid disposal of goods to get the next best thing. This is regardless of weather or not this item is needed. Much like needing the next new cell phone despite the fact there is nothing wrong with the one a person currently has, other than it has no app for tracking planets or whatever. Society seems to view things as being much more disposable than they were when I was a kid.

 

I was shaving this morning, and staring at my disposable razor-got me thinking about this thread. North Americans are now a disposable society. For me it started with the Timex watch. Then it was the Bic disposable razor. That concept has transferred to ownership in general. folks have nothing invested in a tool, it is thrown away. perhaps this has transferred to how we treat each other.

 

More than likely...

 

How we treat each other and how we treat the earth.

 

nowadays, people have what they want handed to them on a silver platter. in the 60s, people had to fight for what they want: less racism, women's rights, sexual freedom.
people are still fighting, but the rest of the world is ignoring them because of their iphones, their ipads, their money. the world is advancing and leaving their problems in the ditch and burying them with electronics and domestic means.

 

The sad part is that technology makes people feel smart... and everyone wants desperately to feel smart ... "to belong"...

And the simplisticz of the new tech allowz for the average person not to read but to buy therefore the feeling is there without the truth or the effort...

The problem is that it iz guided or artificial smart ... what I mean "buy" this "pun intended"... I am explaining that people understand how to use this aplication and that aplication; but not the raw elements of how the object iz made...

For example; you can ask a person theze dayz what is a transistor or the ultimate "diode" and they will have no relevant clue... but in the seventies and so forth it would have been a long and elaborate conversation...

Who created the neon bulb ... Tesla .... etc...

Blue moon is right it iz a cheap throw away generation ... there iz a reason for thiz...
It iz the as above as below syndrome... basically people are running from real problemz and covering them by staring into their screens and talking about happy thingz hoping the ogre goez away till the next day... that is why the ogre became so big because the last generation did the same and so forth...




It iz not really any onez fault it iz just a sad thing...

 

I really don't see much change in humans in this aspect neither. It looks only so different because of the rapid changing technology but the majority of the people always wasn't the smartest and when there was a change to lift themselves to a higher status, to feel smart or to belong to an 'in crowd' so to say they would have tried also before this age. The people did not change.

 

Interesting point. Using a slide rule vs using a calculator comes to mind.

 

Oh, for sure-people are now disposable, too. Look at how people treat each other in relationships, how little respect people get when they die (look how few people attend funerals nowadays, usually the ones that expect to inherit something). People end seemingly serious relationships and marriages without so much as a goodbye or 'at least it was nice while it lasted' and then completely forget about the other person. That's what happens when you have a society without love. Rotsa ruck.

 

over my time i have watched times change a great deal, some change with times some dont. when i was a kid i dont recall any family with 2 or more cars, most everyone paid there bills, 1 television per family if you were lucky enough to have a tv. clothes were washed with a wringer machine, and bluing was used to keep your whites white, (damn i didnt realize i was so old). you could make a living on a 40 acre farm,....now, today everyone i know works every waking minute just to survive, no time to visit friends at home, the mention above of disposable society, all true.
nobody hardly sits down as a family and eats dinner, kids dont run the tires and gas outa dads car like we did, the youths today seem much more careful than we were, in lots of aspecs...i could ramble for days on this....