Placebo effect

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by Dubbit!, May 14, 2012.

  1. Dubbit!

    Dubbit! Member

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    Hi people.

    Well, i'm out of bud, and i'm gonna be out of it for a long time (a month at least)
    anyways. I heard of something called the Placebo effect.

    I have a friend who thinks its cool to be smoking joints in front of school and shit
    so he people think he a stoner. He's not though, he smokes badly prepared wild lettuce extract that doesn't work and shit quality weed. (That has practically no effect)

    Anyways, he can honestly get high from anything, i remember he smoked normal lettuce :ack2: and he was like seriously stoned, and he wasn't faking, i know him pretty well and i know when he's faking.

    So the other day he said that if i really believed that i was stoned then i would be. And i was like if you say so. But now i'm out of weed i'm thinking about trying it. I use I doser sometimes but the halluciongenic doses have no effect on me. Only marijuana, cocaine, opium and heroine work with me.

    What do you think. Anyone else tried this?
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Not with lettuce of course :D But I think my expectations have triggered a placebo effect sometimes as well. It remains vague though and it is always slightly distinctive from a proper weed high.
     
  3. Delta 9 The Psychonaut

    Delta 9 The Psychonaut Member

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    By the definition of Placebo effect said placebo will only work if the user has no knowledge it is a placebo. The fact he gets "high" from smoking things with no psychoactive value could be attributed to oxygen deprivation from smoke inhalation.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    You say the Marijuana I Doser works for you... Doesn't that solve your problem?

    ooo and audio cocaine and heroin? Sounds like you could save a lot of money that way.


    I Dosers didn't do anything for me and I've yet to smoke lettuce, lowest I've stooped is catnip which I dont reccommend.
     
  5. Dubbit!

    Dubbit! Member

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    Yes they work but it's not very powerfull. Also don't smoke lettuce, as far as i know there is no psycoactive substances in it. My friend probably used it cause' it was green.
     
  6. Popularity

    Popularity Senior Member

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    It would be better if someone gave it to you and told you it was marijuana rather than telling yourself.
     
  7. G0dm4ch1n3

    G0dm4ch1n3 Senior Member

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    Why not get you some Damania, Blue Lotus, Chamomile, and stuff roll it up and smoke it. It will give you a bit of a calming effect and it tastes pretty good. You could also add Red Clover, Peppermint, or Lemongrass for flavor also. :) You can find all these herbs online or maybe at your local headshop.
     
  8. Dubbit!

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    I have thought about this G0dm4ch1n3, but i live in the french region of the limousin and the city: Limoges is like really small, i dunno if we have any headshops, i'll look into it. Also my parents might think it's bizarre loads of them "legal buds" arriving at my house lol.
     
  9. G0dm4ch1n3

    G0dm4ch1n3 Senior Member

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    There are botanical sites that will ship em to you discreetly if dont havta worry bout ur rents opening ur packages. If they do tell em your making a calming tea blend or somethin. Its not gonna come in little baggies like the 'legal weed'. None of it includes any of the RC chems either, btw.
     
  10. SuperPsychMe

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    Placebo is no fun. Just mainly a lot of wondering if your really high or not and just focusing on that. I know from personal experience....................
     
  11. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i wouldn't suggest damiana. gave me a nasty headache when i vaporized it. chamomile is VERY tasty when vaporized, and is supposed to have several health benefits. not from smoking but...
     
  12. chaos_reigns

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    Placebo shouldn't work on someone who is well familiar with the effects of weed (or any potent drug), unless they're an idiot. Your friend who smokes lettuce is just that. It should not be hard to tell if you're genuinely high or not if you've done it several times. If people could just will themselves stoned why would anyone actually buy the stuff?
    Then again you seem to have convinced yourself that I Doser actually has a psychoactive effect (which it doesn't), so have at it.
     
  13. guerillabedlam

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    What I'm about to describe isn't exactly Placebo but it's pretty similar. But in some sense I think people who are familiar with a particular high or something may be more susceptible to placebo type effects because most drugs have a reinforcing effect and so I think your brain and body sort of prepare itself for that high.

    For instance, the day of when I'm going out to a show or rave and going to take MDMA I feel like I'm rolling (feeling the effects) lightly pretty much the whole day before I have even ingested the drug. Now I'd still buy the stuff because it's no replacement of the real deal but it's still an interesting sensation.
     

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