I've been a vegetarian for awhile now. I'm thinking about eating seafood again. I fucking hate eating flax plus all the time to get my Omega's. And I miss eating out at red lobster lol. I'm very conscious about what I eat though, on ah health and a spiritual basis. So I feel very iffy on making the change. What be some you veggie heads opinions about seafood?
I personally don't eat seafood. But whatever floats your boat haha. I mean, as far as health goes, there are plenty good reasons to eat seafood. but if you're in for animal rights you might have a hard time arguing your position if you eat fish. it's completely up to you. If you feel like you would be healthier and happier eating seafood then eat it! no use making yourself miserable...
We only eat fish here and there,and those summer time Maryland crabs,it bothers me a little,but i am in it for animal rights to,so its not something my wife and i do alot,but when we do it is a really good enjoyable meal.I ate so much shrimp i dont even eat them anymore,and Red Lobster is really nice.We space it out alot,its not something we do all the time.Hope this helps you with your decision....take care
I've gone back to eating seafood. After being veg since I was 13 (vegan for 4 years of that) and discovering I have wheat intolerance, I decided to go back to fish for health reasons. I'm already seeing improvements. I still find the idea of eating a creature rather strange and I battle with my conscience sometimes, but I justify it by looking at the difference in my health. I'm also very happy and proud to still not be eating mammals and contributing to their suffering, which is scientifically proven to exist to varying degrees (mice feel pain, cows feel pain and forms of emotion) Nobody yet knows for sure if a fish has anything near a capacity for suffering. I certainly doubt smaller sea creatures such as shrimp do. Cephalopod intelligence is well documented, and although this doesn't equate to a capacity for suffering, I still wouldn't eat squid or octopus. It seems plain freaky. Word of warning/advice: Eat only oily fish. This means you avoid eating fish which wont provide the benefits you seek. Also, eat no more than 3 portions a week, as mercury can build up in your system over time. 2 or 3 portions is fine. I'd also advise sticking to an all-round healthy diet. I see it as a matter of respect as well as practicality. Yes, I've reverted to eating fish again, and this is for health reasons. General conscientiousness is therefore also necessary. As a side note, I think seafood is really delicious. I'd missed it. I have never missed meat from mammals, which I find gross.
Well I ate ah fish today, lol! After doing research it seems pesco-vegetarians seem to live the longest and seem to function better at an older age on averedge then most vegens, vegies, and meat eaters. I keep reading about how you should limit your seafood intake because of mercury and all that. But god damn it, those Japs eat seafood everyday like it's nobody's business and even though Japans full of pollution and industry they have one of the overall healthiest populations.
It just depends on what kind of fish you're eating. If you're eating wild caught fish as opposed to farm raised then you're doin some good for yourself. farm raised fish is all kinds of ick. and that's where you'll need to worry about mercury (although i'm sure theres trace amounts in wild caught too).
Bullshit. There is nothing inherently racist about communication, that's a pathetic excuse and makes just about no sense.
It's individualized and divided historically by race and geographic location. Hush with you're silly rhetoric. It was a nonsensical reply to a nonsensical post. Anyway, the entire argument would have nothing to do with the original post. Lets digress.
Have I missed something? Cows are a no no but fish; go all out? What kinda messed up notion is that? I hope I don't get a "fish don't feel pain" answer.
I don't hold fish to be of the same level of consciousness as that of land creatures. And unlike eating land mammals, eating fish provides nutrients that cannot be obtained by any other method. Their is a reason pescotarians seem to live the longest.
"it's okay to eat fish, cause they don't have any feelings" Maybe stash has "something in the way"..... Don't judge him. I have to say, some fish seem to be pretty freakin' aware..... Some might be all reflex, some not, there's a wide array. Though not "fish", octapus and squid are VERY intelligent, and in some ways, much more advanced than humans, by simple convergent evolution. Some things that are even "primitive" like rays seem quite aware, even if their form limits the mental growth they can experience. But I eat just about anything. I'm not saying one way or the other, I'm just saying that's a lame reason. If you're going to draw arbitrary lines like that, it might make more sense to eat nothing, or everything. Living in water is not evidence that it isn't smart enough to matter. It might make more sense to accept that you might need to eat living things, from plants to animals, to be healthy, and work on limiting the impact and suffering caused by that, and being personally mentally healthy and accepting of that fact, instead of making excuses about brain power. Stash, you described regionalism due to a primitive inability to communicate long distances. The finns speak something you'd expect in india, doesn't make them indian..... And many people of very similar races speak very different languages. Again, divergent evolution of language is not racist at all, but a regionalist side effect of migration. I don't think "japs" is SO offensive.... but I still don't think it's tasteful.
That is why people go fishing. It's so quiet and peaceful and the darn things don't scream when you whack'em. Perfect. Has anybody ever tried the hook-in-mouth thing personally?
Well, vegetarian means that you don't eat sea life. See the sticky pescatarian world for the view on having fish as the only flesh in a diet. From an ethical pov, life is life, although Peter Singer points out that mollusks are probably off the sentient spectrum, based on CNS or PNS development. With overfishing, I continue to have pause about eating fish. But, my vegetarian journey was never about AR, only making the kinder choice for a variety of reasons. If you do peruse pescatarianism, see http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/seafoodwatch.aspx I only glanced at this article, but non flax omegas are discussed http://www.savvyvegetarian.com/articles/omega-3-vegetarians-vegans.php
I opened this thread so I could use this. You took that away from me I've known several people who's meat intake consisted of only fish. The reasons vary but it is more acceptable amung "vegetarians" than any other meat. Technically you wouldn't be a vegitarian anymore, and it will make some hard nosed veggie nazis angry if you call yourself one. But I'm guessing it's easier to explain quickly to people that you're a vegitarian, rather than tell them you only eat fish.
Veggie fascist, thank you very much. I truly understand using vegetarian as shorthand. But here is the main issue with that. You go to a restaurant. You tell the server you are vegetarian. then you order fish or seafood. Now, the server isn't all hip to the fine lines, and probably thinks vegetarians are in league with terrorists or some such twaddle. So when the next veg, who is say, lacto-veg, comes in and server happily announces they have a veg special....tuna melts. Server thinks this is right by the experience with you. New customer gets angry and tips miserably even though the right food came out and service was attentive. Next veg comes in and the server doesn't try hard at all. No tip is expected, so no service. Third veg posts all over that the restaurant hates veggies. Restaurant closes and 42 people are out of work. Do you really want to be responsible for putting 42 people out of work? ( takes tongue out of cheek) Ok, so that is a riff on get rid of cable adverts. However, if you say you are veg, rather than prefer vegetarian food, servers can assume that most veg*ns will eat fish.
I think if you're going to eat flesh, fish is probably the least problematic from an ethical perspective: even if fish actually do experience suffering in the same ways that other creatures do, they don't spend their entire lives suffering the way livestock do. Also: --- nobodies knocking down rain forests to give halibut a place to graze --- fish aren't constantly bombarding the environment with methane --- the meat and dairy industries use up massive acreages of land (literally use-up in that eventually the land becomes unusable for anything else) to grow feed crop for livestock. Most fish are caught wild so they're fed by their own habitats. --- the meat and dairy industries also use up massive amounts of water and fossil fuels. The fishing industry, not nearly as much. --- the meat and dairy industries also dump massive amounts of animal waste, pesticide residue, and processing byproducts into the environment. Karmically, fish just seems to come with a lot less bagage.
Well, I'd think the processing ships would drink diesel. There is a lot of life lost that isn't ever put into the human or pet food chains. But concerns about toxic fish can get people to care about the oceans more, and from a planetary perspective, the oceans and seas are the canaries in the ecological coal mine.