Pussy Paradox

-We have to approach, but we can't be creepy
-We have to be noncholant but we have to make almost all the moves
-We have to be cool, yet not be trying too hard
-Gotta be king shit of our insecurities, but yours are always free to fly
-Must start, lead, and aid the conversation while you just sit back and judge
-Must dance and tiptoe around your fickle emotions 'cuz if it doesn't "feel right" then it's a no-go.

Are you shitting me here? Being a man sucks in the dating game...

I can let other forumites continue this list but what do FEMALES think about these issues? What do guys think about it? Why is this social one-sidedness ignored?

It puzzles me and I wonder how women honestly feel about this, or are they conveniently ignoring it? Also how does half the population (men) deal and feel about this?

Fundamentals of how our genders communicate need a freakin re-haul, imo. :smoking:

 

If u believe this is what u have to do to "get a woman", then i suppose nothing a woman can tell u will convince u otherwise...
So let's imagine u've made a point and women are walking paradoxes, question : what/who is forcing u to run after such paradoxes and try to obey their rules ? I mean, u could very well say "fck this sh*t, im not gonna play by women's rules anymore".

 

I think it's very simple, man. It's the media. Take a look and listen to the women and men in media. It might help you realize that there is a type of hegemonic male and female. People like media and look up to it. Media is for the most part, horrible and can have horrible effects on a person. People feed into other people's bullshit.

I understand your pain and I try and avoid the whole gender shit by being a person first, and then a man. I have my own definition of what a man is, and what a woman is because I know how to define a person. make sense?

hope this helped!

 

That's only if you play the game and go after the girls that play the game.

You leave the game, you leave all the confusing rules behind.

 

because it benefits women and most men aren't willing to completely give up sex, so they do what they have to.

 

Are you kidding me? You see, we have things called penises, and these things have so much a mind of their own, that for the first half of our lives if not the whole thing they convince us to chase after whatever increases our chance of getting laid, whether it be money, power or talent of some kind or whatever the women you're chasing happens to admire.

I've stopped trying because I couldn't care less about that shit, and it's been more successful than any tactics mentioned by the OP. Don't ask me why.

 

I don't play the game, and wouldn't want to be with any female who would play that game, or want me to play it.

 

It's simple really, it's just natural instincts. We just layer culture, morals, societal attitudes, etc. on top of what are just basic instinctual behaviors.

In the vast majority of the animal kingdom the male has to work at getting a mate and females are the ones with the final say. The reason for this is really simple.
Females have to invest a hell of a lot more time and energy into reproduction than the male does. So the female will be very particular about whom she mates with in order to ensure getting the best genetic bang for the many bucks she is going to have to invest in the pregnancy and raising of the offspring.

Humans are simply carrying on that same selective breeding. It's one form of natural selection at work. We are just are so enamored with ourselves that we have a hard time seeing the instinctual behaviors we all go through every day and pile tons of crap on top to try to explain or understand our behaviors.

 

I get a ride from this chick from work. Even though she`s out of shape, I asked her if I could kiss her about two months ago. She answered with an abrupt, "NO!"

So, I felt shitty for half-a-day. Especially because, since then, I got news she made out with another co-worker, etc.

Tonight, in the car, she asked me whether I wanted to have causal sex. Point blank. I said, sure.

She came up to my place, I was comfortable, but I couldn`t get it up. I wasn`t into the kissing (she`s got a pretty face and breasts/turns out so is her pussy), I didn`t feel very attracted to her. But I`ve also fucked much worse with extra lust. I don`t know if we`ll try again or not.

It`s also been a while for me since I was with a regular chick. I`m always with super whores.

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Anyway, you could try being blunt like I was.

 

Totally thought this was going to be a thread about Schrödinger's cat, I remain fooled.

 

:rofl:

 

Hey maybe Schrödinger was talking about a woman's pussy all the time along? :sunny:

 

You have most of the rules down, now stop bitching and use them to your advantage.

Women probably love it in most cases, protection against finding a clingy/creepy ape with a penis and 20% more muscle mass. Though this game is not just played by the "straight community" my gay and lesbians friends deal with the exact same shit. In other words get use to the ritual.

We live and learn.

No, you just need to stop seeing women as "something" figure out and just enjoy their company, you'll live longer. Better yet, you might actually enjoy the game *gasp*

 

It was a rhetorical question really, as my point was exactly the same as yours, and as Duck's and RooRshack's :

^So yea, i suppose u, Duck and RooRshack all have a penis, yet somehow nothing/no one forces u to play by the rules exposed by the OP.

 

Crayola you look like my ex-girlfriend who was rather hot, so I find myself attracted to you but resent your opinions in part for breaking up with me. Bear in mind that that's the only reason I would disagree with you which, in this case, I don't. I'd still like to know why though

 

lol sorry i broke up with u Walsh

 

Awh, I feel special :daisy:

She knows I have a penis and I didn't even have to show her!

 

I'm dealing with a flake right now. And the standard advice is to "lay down the law" -- why would I even want to start a relationship with someone via something negative like that?
It just makes me not even want to get to know you anymore.

I think the point was the rules create a tiny window that's impossible to fulfill.

*****

^ Honesty right here. A couple of other people trying to sweep the whole issue under the rug with their "don't play the game" advice. I got a buddy who doesn't play the game -- he's 30 and single. You act like if I don't do anything, women will all of a sudden grow a pair and go after men themselves. Nope. What I wrote were the natural laws of attraction. People lose interest in things as soon as they feel they have it, and women abuse this SO far it's freaking retarded, for lack of a better word.

:daisy: I keep hoping it's possible to have a healthy discussion of this, having a co-ed forum and whatnot, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

fuck the game

 

If by healthy you mean, one where everyone agrees with you; it's not gonna happen. Not on any topic. Ever.

If you mean, not turn into a shitstorm -- it really hasn't gotten that bad ..yet


There is no denying there is a lot of power play and games on both sides of the dating game; "don't put out for 3 dates", "don't call for 3 days", "don't let them know you're interested"; some are simply proposing that there're better girls to find, better ways to find them. That not everyone plays.

You can date seriously. With people who seriously want to find someone to be with. That are relatively honest up front and want to find a compatible match.

What's so hard to believe about that?