A controversial topic, adult sex with children

I believe that society has developed an unhealthy look on sex. Sex is a heavy subject, sex is something that can damage people.

Well I don't agree and I think that view causes more harm than good. Why don't we simply look at sex like a game? A very fun game where the goal is to make yourself and the other(s) feel excited feelings, pleasurable feelings, orgasmic feelings.

Now here comes my extremely controversial claim:
Sex with children is not rape by definition.

Of course it can be rape if you try to penetrate an 8 year old girl or force a young boy to give you a blowjob. However, it doesn't have to be that way.

Imagine this situation:
A house with 1 mom, 1 dad and 1 son. The parents are naturists and have raised their child a naturist. As long as the kid can remember he has seen his parents naked in the house and it's normal for him as he also walks naked in the house all the time. Not only that, he has also seen his parents have sex for as long as he can remember. They'd be watching TV together and suddenly dad and mom would get excited and start to have sex right there on the couch. Because they have been doing that for as long as he can remember, it is very normal to the boy. But as the boy grows, so does his curiosity.
He asks: "Mommy, why do you lick daddy's wee wee?"
Mom responds: "Because that makes daddy feel funny feelings."
The boy is satisfied with that answer and continues watching TV. Two months later his curiosity has grown again and he wants to know what those funny feelings feel like. He asks mommy if she would like to lick his wee wee, because he wants to know what it feels like.

Now if mommy complies, do you believe the boy will be traumatized? I don't think so. There is nothing traumatizing going on. I think most of society would say this is wrong, the boy will be scarred for the rest of his life. I really don't understand. It is nothing more than a game. Just a game...

I hope to start a civilized discussion and maybe even find some people who agree with me.

 

A mom sucking her sons cock, nothing wrong with that..

 

Now I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not. I truly believe that there is nothing wrong with that, but you could be sarcastic. Could you elaborate?

 

I can only hope that the OP is a troll...

I always garner a small sense of personal relief from such posts... kinda makes me think that maybe I'm not so abnormal after all, with such people about.

 

This is what I was afraid of. No I am not a troll and I would appreciate if you could explain why you think in my example the boy would be traumatized instead of judging me personally.

 

Anyone who posts their views on a public messageboard is fair game to be judged by others, be that positively or negatively. Whether you like it or not, many people are not going to view the above scenario you painted as being in anyway acceptable. You may think there's nothing wrong with it, but most people (including me) would, that's just the way it is.

You can actually strip down everything you've said to a simple question: Is incest okay? Whether you like it or not, most people wouldn't think it's okay, much less when a child is involved.

 

I understand you think it's not okay, but I don't understand WHY. WHY is it a traumatizing experience? Don't say "it just is", that's just dumb.

And yes I also think there is nothing wrong with incest as long as both parties are not forced.

 

(Interesting fact)=There is an island in the South Pacific called Raivavae (close) where the responsibility for teaching young boys about sex fell to the grandmother and the grandfather was responsible for teaching the girls. This was the way their society was and the article didn't go into details ,but one can imagine. Their society has changed and it was said the decendants were ashamed of that tradition and did not want to discuss it. They,of course,now realize that the conduct in question was abberant behaviour and in my opinion--- still is.
OP should use his vivid imagination in more productive ways.

 

The details are the most important. In my example it is not the mother who asked to give the boy a blowjob, it was the boy who asked for it. That is crucial. I don't think it is traumatizing if the child has all the power. The child dictates when a sexual game starts and when it ends. As long as the child has that power I cannot imagine how it could be traumatizing for them. Because as soon as they feel like they don't want it anymore, they just say "stop" and it stops.

 

Even if you were to take the incest out of the equation, this would still be wrong for the exact same reason that bestiality is wrong. Some people defend it by saying that the animal "consents". But really, an animal simply cannot consent to sex on the same level that an adult human can, as it's brain is not as advanced. And it's the exactly same thing with a child. A child simply does not have the mental capacity to consent to a sexual act on the same level as an adult human can, as it's brain is not as advanced and is not fully developed. So therefore, any "consent" given is null and void.

 

There's nothing inherently harmful about sex.

 

Why do you need an advanced developed brain to give consent? I mean, if 2 dogs have sex, is that wrong? Because neither of them can give consent according to your theory?

When you say it needs the consent of a highly developed brain then you make sex sound like a heavy topic again. I still don't understand why sex can't be just a game? What makes sex so different than tickling?

 

Uh-huh. Right. I'll be asking my mother for a blowjob when it rains pigs.

 

I'm really trying to understand. Could you please just explain instead of making sarcastic remarks like these?

 

I like your attitude Life! It won't tolerate rape and stands in defence of pleasure!

I am sure unexpected pregnancy, quite innocently, is a large part of the heaviness attributed to the most consensual game known to man and woman, - sexual intercourse. I mean, the game can only be more complex as more players are "introduced", can't it?! :-D


Scratcho:

lol be careful what you wish for!

 

Hmmmm. So if a little boy walks up to me and says, "Hey, can you punch me in the face? I've never had it happen before and I'm curious.". So I reach back and fuckin let this kid have it.... Fist to face.....kid goes flying across the room. His concussion isn't real right? Because the kid asked for it. I mean, that's the logic you're using here. The kid consented the face punch so there's nothing wrong with it.

Really?

 

The mother is there to nurture the child not pleasure him in a sexual way. The mother should know that while yes the child is curious to steer him the right way to find out for himself. It is her flesh and blood.

I would also question such openness about having sex in front of children as well. There is one thing about having free love and expressing it in front of your kids but another to just have a full on fuck.

There is just something wrong about it I'm a mother and the thought disturbs me greatly.

 

Now you are comparing sex to violence and I honestly hope that you do not really think that sex and violence are comparable...

 

Sarcasm is my stock in trade. Existentually --nothing matters. Murder,theft,beastiality,incest--nothing.However within the constructs of human societies--some situations have proven to be troublesome. The above mentioned were some such. This was not made up yesterday,but by most societies experiential adjustments as situations developed along the way that were better being discarded for the betterment of all members. Incest was one. I would say getting blowjobs from family members might be in that catagory and eligible for discardation.

You can look at it any way you like. And so can I.

 

Sex with children is doing violence to them. I think it comes down to--either you understand it--or you don't.