Nootropics

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by Hallucinations, Feb 26, 2012.

  1. Hallucinations

    Hallucinations Member

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    I'm interested in trying some nootropics for their benefits to memory, and other cognitive functions, since my memory is terrible. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with any nootropics like piracetam. If you have, was there a significant increase in any of your cognitive functions? If so, which one's (like memory, problem solving speed and/or capacity, reaction time ect), and how much difference was noticed? Also how long did the effects last and how frequently was it taken in what dosages, and if it was taken for a while did its effects remain constant or did a tolerance eventually develop or did it begin to be more effective as levels built up? Any info anyone has about nootropics on any level would be interesting, I know they can also potentiate certain drugs too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne8YmpVVH4Q&feature=player_detailpage"]NZT- The Clear Pill - YouTube

    PS: If you haven't seen it yet, watch the movie limitless.
     
  2. Hedgeclipper

    Hedgeclipper Qiluprneeels Nixw

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    I will often do Piracetam trials around particularly intense school weeks and the like. I did one for midterms last week, where I saterted with a loading dose of 4g (when I woke up, at 10, at 2, at 5), then after that I did around 2g every day and 3g on friday for a very important classics exam.
    I notice that I am more awake, without caffeine dependance and overstimulation, I can think more clearly, I am intensely aware of the details of my surroundings and I can better organize my thoughts. For example, I can plan out an essay very well. I can break its indevidual parts down and isolate thesis and find the perfect quotations and hold a lot of ideas in my head simultaneously then weave them together very nicely.
    I suggest piracetam, or oxyracetam if you can get your hands on it. Modafinil is also every useful for some of these purposes, but its not a true nootropic and is more of a drug than nootropics.
    Nootropics are not like that thing from limitless. "AZT: burns you out like a drug. Nootropics just have a subtle effect that does not develop much tolerance and works well over a long period of time. The effect is barely noticeable and you ought to use a loading dose to properly understand its function so you can learn to work with it.

    And from what I hear incredible LSD potentiation. Same thing for everything else. And less stoner-ness from smoking lots of herbs (although I wouldn't know and I haven't smoked pot in years, so I'm not sure about its effects with ganja)
     
  3. Hallucinations

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    I just ordered some pramiracetam, and am considering ordering some alpha-GPC. I'm also trying to source noopept, huperzine, and centrophenoxine to take all of them together in lower individual doses since they synergize together.

    So by a loading dose you mean a large dose to quickly raise levels in your blood initially? And did you mean you took a gram when you woke up, a gram at 10, then another one at 2 and the final one at 5 and then 2g at once on the other days in the morning? I need to be studying for my physics GRE exam which I haven't been doing lately, but I'm excited to do so with the aid of some nootropics and note the difference it has.
     
  4. 13uddh4

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    I take Piracetam, Choline Bitartrate, and L-Theanine.

    If you are going to take Piracetam, don't expect immediate results, and definitely don't expect anything similar to a "Limitless" effect. You're going to want your Calcium and glutamate levels to be right (you can get calcium from taking a multivitamin or some form of calcium, glutamate sources is most foods containing protein, MSG, and a few flora that contains protein).

    I started taking Piracetam about 8 months ago (original dose of 2,400mg a day) along with Choline Bitartrate (310mg a day) and didn't notice the effects until near a month into taking the two. Piracetam will give you a sharper recall, and will help you with remembering things that you either took notes over or heard. I'm currently taking around 4,800mg Piracetam/620mg Choline/500mg L-Theanine. I've taken close to 16g of Piracetam at one time, to test and see if it truly was nontoxic and I experienced no side effects.

    Another thing you are going to want to know is that you are going to want to take Piracetam in the morning (at least until you adjust to it) as it has been reported to give people a hard time going to sleep.

    If you're wondering what L-Theanine is, it can be found in Green Tea. It has been reported to be a calming agent, however it does effect GABA receptors which Piracetam is a derivative cyclic of so it should work in synergy. I added the L-Theanine almost a month ago now, and I have noticed that my recall has significantly improved.
     
  5. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    If it turns me into that guy in the clip, count me out
     
  6. G0dm4ch1n3

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    I have really only taken it as a potentiator but I plan on starting a regimen because my short term memory is seriously whack. I lose stuff, forget names (OF MY OWN FAMILY), and often find myself forgetting what I am doing in the middle of doing it. I feel like a total burn out recently, really feel like something has damaged my brain or something and I haven't been tripping/smoking as often as I used to either. I'm hoping the piracetam helps restore some of my brain function.
     
  7. 13uddh4

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    Haha man I am not going to lie I was a lot like you several months back. My short term memory was absolutely horrible, I wouldn't remember if I locked the door, where I had just set something, what I was doing, or what I was saying/writing. As I previously said I've been taking Piracetam for near eight months now, and am no longer having to run back up the stairs to my apartment to make sure my door is locked. LOL!

    I've improved since I started taking Piracetam/Choline/L-Theanine. It takes about a month before you will start to notice the effects, but your recall should improve (mine has, and a lot of others who have taken as well). There's several things that help improve Piracetam's effectiveness such as Nicotine and Caffeine.
     
  8. G0dm4ch1n3

    G0dm4ch1n3 Senior Member

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    Awesome. That gives me hope. It's no fun feeling like you have alzheimers when you are only 26 lol.
     
  9. 13uddh4

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    LOL! Right, I know I was just getting more and more frustrated with the whole ordeal. I was horrible at remembering names, and simply called people dude man sir or ma'am LOL. I now know all my coworkers names, which is cool. Makes it easier when I want to talk to them.

    Not sure what the site rules are on linking things but there is a PDF available for download on this site: http://www.smartdrugsforthought.com/piracetam-research
    The PDF is near the top, it's kinda hard to see so don't just rapidly scroll down. It's there though, not sure why they have it so unnoticeable though. The PDF has a lot of information on Piracetam and a bit of information on the other Racetams as well.
     
  10. G0dm4ch1n3

    G0dm4ch1n3 Senior Member

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    +rep Thanks for the info.
     
  11. 13uddh4

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    Haha no problem and thanks for the reps!

    Little bit of extra information on Piracetam: It will give you some seriously intense dreams. It's been reported on numerous occasions to stimulate Lucid Dreaming. I've had Lucid Dreams since I was a child, so I cannot say that it caused this for me, I can say that my dreams have been a lot more vivid.

    Last night I had a dream I was a gladiator, that was trying to escape from my masters. I managed to escape with a fellow gladiator, who got us captured when he gave a horribly fake name to some guards, and then proceeded to use my real name after I said my name was something else....

    I know it seems random, and unimportant to the thread, however it is an effect of Piracetam that IMO is pretty effin sweet. It's also one of the reasons most tend to take Piracetam in the morning, I think that by taking it in the morning you are less likely to experience this.
     
  12. decsok

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    One nootropic that I have tried was Picamilion.

    I noticed some anxiety releif after ingesting around 2g (8 capsules)
    But it was very subtle and not worth the amount of money spent for the effects it produced.
    Taking such a large volume of caps at once didnt seem right either but very little if any effects were felt at lower doses.
    In my opinion, this certain nootropic was no good but I do beleive there is definatly some out there that are worthwhile.
     
  13. 13uddh4

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    Have you considered trying Piracetam or any of the Racetams? These are widely used in the nootropic community. I've heard good things about Picamilion and was considering giving it a try, however I heard of people becoming drowsy from taking it and that with this makes me slightly wary.

    I'm taking Piracetam, L-Theanine, and Choline Bitartrate currently and it has been working well for what I need it for (studying, note taking, lectures).
     
  14. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

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    Great Thread! I really want to add something I dont think many people have heard of yet since its a relatively new product but it is getting OUTSTANDING reviews.... http://www.prevagen.com/about/apoaequorin/ they won the nopel prize for the discovery of this completely natural calcium binding protein that actually repairs dead cells in the brain and has been successfully treating Alzheimers the past few years.
     
  15. Hallucinations

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    Have you or anyone else tried using Pramiracetam? It's supposed to be 10-15 times more potent than Piracetam, I assume they mean by dosage, though I see some people take fairly large doses of pramiracetam when considering that (600-1200mg sometimes). I have started taking pram. for two days now, 600 mg a day at night. I'm going to start taking more doses throughout the day maybe a little lower if I take more.

    I'll report on any effects I notice. I did seem to get a slight stimulation effect from parachuting 600 mg pram., but I was smoking hash too so the effects are mingled.
     
  16. 13uddh4

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    No I haven't tried Pramiracetam it's definitely on my "to do" list though! I'm going to go ahead and try Aniracetam in a couple of weeks considering it's supposed to work with Piracetam quite well. At least that's what I've read >.>
     

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