Any history majors here, past or present?

Discussion in 'History' started by GoingHome, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. GoingHome

    GoingHome Further Within

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    Just curious.

    Also, is the US the only country to win independence from the UK by war?
    If so, why were we successful where so many, I assume, were not?
     
  2. BeachBall

    BeachBall Nosey old moo

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    No.

    Republic of Ireland ... Kenya ... Malaysia ...
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I learned for history teacher, but I did not like teaching :p
     
  4. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    India.
     
  5. BeachBall

    BeachBall Nosey old moo

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    My impression, Scratcho, was that India obtained independence through a campaign of non-violent civil resistance; and that the violence came later. I may be wrong in that though. As I say, it's only an impression ...
     
  6. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Correct. I misread the op.
     
  7. SapphireNeptune

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    Sup, what do you want to know?

    As for other nations vs Great Britain, it's hard to say. Take say Ireland, define a war. At that point it was more guerrilla activity, I mean between both sides only around 1,200 people died(I believe more died in the ensuing Irish civil war), but, the politics over it as well as the ongoing deaths just made Britain say "fuck it" more or less. Same with India and the rest, in India/Pakistan's case, Britain made promises of independence it kept good on during WW2 to make sure there was no mass uprisings, for the rest of its possessions when it came down to it, post WW2 they couldn't afford the empire anymore. The US may have "won" a war over Britain, but we only did it was a substantial amount of international support. The Spanish and Dutch provided quite a lot of financial and material assistance as well as militarily keeping the British busy outside of North America, while the French did the same except in North America. Take the decisive Battle of Yorktown. In the siege there were was many French under Rochambeau if not more than there were American colonists(and let's not forget the role Layfayette played in training and leading them), and it was the French fleet that had finally shown up and kept the British from being able to evacuate Yorktown. As was always the case it was always politics that plays a role too, the war was bleeding the British treasury dry and vs sending reinforcements the government just agreed to peace, as these were in many respects British(soon to be American) peoples who the crown benefited greatly from in terms of trade. And they were right, despite some tense relations at times and another war, Americans and Brits were culturally too similar not to benefit one another.
     
  8. Hjarloprillar

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    What . is a history major? one who has read 30 40 history tomes..

    By that standard im a phd.
    Specializing is German armored formation and history , ww2.

    My Doctorate is Mobile warfare.
    My mentor , Heinze Guderian

    Prill

    Any ivory tower establishment would say no.. till i was tested
    By those who knew less on topic...

    need i say more
     
  9. Hjarloprillar

    Hjarloprillar Banned

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    so your not just a pretty anime
     
  10. Hjarloprillar

    Hjarloprillar Banned

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    Sup

    So why is America now perceived as an
    oppressive superstate who takes what it wants.

    While my interest is not Us global geopolitics. I find little reason for America to occupy Iraq but for the geopolitical position.

    I'll wait for reply to that opener
     
  11. BeachBall

    BeachBall Nosey old moo

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    Ha ha!

    In the contest between brain and looks, I definitely came down on the side of brain. The anime I use from time to time as sig pics are much more pleasing to the eye than any pic of me could ever be.

    I'm thinking of applying for history MA course ... but it won't be in German armoured formations (although are you sure Guderian would be a better mentor in mobile warfare than Rommel??)
     
  12. Hjarloprillar

    Hjarloprillar Banned

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    Beach

    I prefer mind over appearance.. though im partial to meg ryan.. ;)
    Anime is cool and i have collection of studio ghibli .. spirited away. Hm castle
    exct. spirited away is one of my fav flics
    Without getting into heavy theory

    Rommel was operational.. Commanding a corps +
    He learnt from Guderian.. who commanded a Pz Army [3 corps]
    Both were brilliant at what they did.
    Little difference in brilliance at war than the other.

    Man Made war.. and thus some rise to leadership in it.
    Few are masters.. they often make history
    Thats al i'll say for this post

    prill

    the sig.. is that a skirt .. or a belt. covers 8% 0f available territory

    hehe
     
  13. BeachBall

    BeachBall Nosey old moo

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    Prill ...

    Who was it who said "He who defends everything ... defends nothing"?

    I believe in devoting all available resource to the defence of my most vulnerable areas :mickey:
     
  14. Hjarloprillar

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    I could reel of a whole lot of witty comebacks to that ;)

    I'll just say welcome to the darkside
     
  15. BeachBall

    BeachBall Nosey old moo

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    Ha ha ... well, that certainly killed the discussion stone dead, didn't it??
     
  16. Hjarloprillar

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    Not so.. If any history people are here. Im sure they have 2cents to put in.
    Any that are worthy a good arguement.

    Lke 9/11.Such a massive historical event.. Yet nothing like what is called the accepted opinion sold to the unthinking masses.
    It is seminal in human society not because of terrorism.[the lie]. but because of the ind/complex.
    I am not a conspiracy theorist. But i know plans when they are not airtight.
    The official one is full of holes.. so be it.
    Interesting.. but no great crime compared with 7 million tons of bombs dropped on N Vietnam
    So many topics.. i cant list the hundreds.. your call.

    prill
     
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