First time trying Salvia (one week ago), and so excited to share my story with anyone who may understand! Been researching spiritual growth and mind exploration, Salvia came up quite often so I bought 20x online and it was delivered to my third world country without any problems :2thumbsup: Good setting, trust-worthy sitter, relaxing music, I took a couple of hits, nothing happened just some laughing and mild repetitive weirdness that I can't describe. 15 minutes later, I decided that perhaps it wasn't salvia or that maybe it's not 20x, so I took one big hit and held it in, and had a few seconds to tell my partner that nothing is happening.. I guess it's safe to say I was perhaps a bit wrong.. I think I blacked out or perhaps it happened instantaneously, but the next thing I know (perhaps "know" is not the correct word) is I am becoming a part of this fabric that makes up the room and life itself, everything in the room is two dimensional in this cloth-like wavy animated fabric (sort of like adhesive paper being pulled away), and although I don't remember hearing any sounds at all I remember it being very noisy. My sitter doesn't exist here anymore and nor do I, only my fear and my certainty that I am now dead or dying (even though I have previously assured myself and my sitter than no one dies from Salvia). A yellowish glowing entity was on the left side of the room, this entity represented (sounded, smelled, felt like) memories of my mother's side of the family, as if they were watching me die. Then things got different, I think at some point I remembered that I am a person with a body and that I need to get back into it, so I went into this indescribably horrible phase of trying to find my body and I was screaming so loud and spinning and breaking things (this all happened in my head, apparently I appeared just a little confused and disoriented to my sitter and I didn't speak until I started coming out), I couldn't see anything per se in this phase, just the colors and objects in the room twisted into weird shapes. I kept looking for my body and when I "found" it (I don't remember seeing it) I thought "How do you re-enter?" and I remember thinking that I will hug it because I couldn't think of any other way. After that, I was able to see my sitter's head (cartoonishly long and without a body) staring at me, then I remembered that I took Salvia but I still thought that I was dying, so my thoughts were something like (I can't die here, it would be very difficult for my sitter and my family). Things looked weird for a couple of minutes but at least I knew I was not dying, at this point, I was saying "I'm mind-fucked" repeatedly and then I closed my eyes and just wanted it to end SO bad, and I told my sitter that I'm never doing Salvia ever again and that I should have listened to all the posts on here who said don't try. 5 minutes later, I'm happy, don't know why, just very happy! Happy that I have witnessed how powerful the mind can be, happy that I have tried something so intense, happy that I am alive? My 10x arrived yesterday, I'm waiting for the weather to get better for an outdoor trip! and some time so pass so I can process my last experience! A few questions for Salvia users: Is that considered a breakthrough? Do you think it might go worse next time? Has anyone experienced completely different experiences from smoking the same thing? Thanks for taking the time to read this :daisy:
Wow, thanks for sharing! Great that you had a sitter and looked into set and setting, cool trip report. Yah I agree it is interesting the realms that Salvia can take your mind too. That sounds like a breakthrough pretty much. Salvia is an incredibly powerful Hallucinogen/disassociative so it's difficult to say how next time will go, it depends on factors like set and setting largely and also dose. Most people I have known including myself usually curb their dose back after having an extremely powerful Salvia Divinorum experience, so I'd say most people don't really set themselves up for the possiblity of 'having it go worse' but Salvia doesn't necessarily get easier upon repeated exposure. I have a lot of similar themes that arise in my Salvia trips but each trip has at least some unique aspect to it as well. You can have fairly different trips from the same extract and relatively similar dose, you may find your outside trip quite different from this indoor trip.
Leema, that EXACT same thing happened to me last week. (Saturday). I smoked 20X, broke through, left my body, then remembered and came back. My experience itself was a little bit different because i had my eyes closed. As for the aftermath, I am also into psychedelics for healing and spiritual growth. I don't think any real psychological healing happened during the experience, becasue it's hard to focus on your problems when you are being shot from a freaking cannon into another dimension. What DID happen though, is some spiritual healing. I don't know that I'd call it healing, because for 3-4 days after the experience thinking about the whole thing made me a little anxious. In short, this experience was very spiritually unsettling. It put into question everything I know about this reality we live in. I have a very hard time accepting that it was just a complex hallucination created by my brain. Truth be told we'll never know, but it was definetly a kind of spiritual awakening. It makes me question things that I had once shut out completely. Here is a link to my post about it in the psych bump: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=7176393#post7176393 Regarding doing it again... Salvia is very unpredictable, so who knows WHAT could happen.... By the way, the mexicain aboriginals who use salvia religiously refer to the female entity that you encountered as the ''shepherdess''. She's a reccuring hallucination in many salvia visions across the world. Kinda makes ya think doesn't it?
Thanks guerillabedlam for a helpful reply, I'm definitely trying a lower dose next time. Shivaya I read your report and sounds like you had much more fun on your trip than I did I don't think this trip has added anything to my spiritual journey though, I'm not sure what happened or why I was convinced that I was dead, given that I don't know what being dead feels like!
Great report! . I've smoked salvia a few times now, and i get similar results every time. I find it very difficult to make much sense in any of the trips. At first i thought i could use it for spiritual growth aswell. But i've come to the conclusion that it doesn't seem like that's the right tool for me to do that with, because if there is any message in the cluster-fuck of strangeness within those 7 minutes then i sure as hell cannot decipher what it is. Personally, i feel like shrooms are the most accessible and overall better tool for anything like that. But that's just me
