Tourists deported over a Twitter joke.

Discussion in 'Latest Hip News Stories' started by meridianwest, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. meridianwest

    meridianwest Senior Member

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    You have a sense of humor and like to express it over the internet? You should watch out, because it is now obviously enough to flag you as a terrorist and get you in trouble with the United States government. This is exactly what happened to two tourists from Britain, who were detained and deported because of what they said over tweeter:

    It doesn't take much to get on that "official terror watch list database".

    I would expect a news' item like this on the April's Fools' Day, not as real news.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...eting_n_1242073.html?1328034740&ncid=webmail1
     
  2. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    This is truly scary when you realize that the US had already flagged this guy one week before he left to come to the States, just because of a couple of tweets he made.

    You have to wonder how they managed to figure out this guy who made the tweets is the same guy who showed up at the airport...

    As far as I know, Twitter is supposed to be anonymous.
     
  3. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    The Department of Homeland Security can subpoena anything from anybody and likely get any information they want...... I doubt Twitter would say "no we can't supply that"
     
  4. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    This is some scary shit! The Dept. of Homeland Security must run some of the strongest supercomputers on earth to be able to monitor every word typed online around the earth and RECOGNIZE it in a couple of hours.
     
  5. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    they have a tip line too... any body seeing it can turn it in as suspicious. Kind of like kids turning in their parents during the nazi regime.


    Wait!

    It's exactly like that.
     
  6. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    It seems the system keys to threatening phrases. It is not a bad idea in general to be polite in our discourse.

    There is always going to be a propensity for error in interpreting speech covertly because disembodied symbols do not portray every aspect of a moments reflection. Certainly any suspicion should require verification before action is considered.
     
  7. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    they recognize and process everything in real time, not hours of delay.
     
  8. Manservant Hecubus

    Manservant Hecubus Master of Funk and Evil

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    The comments section for that article made me want to puke.
     
  9. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Comments sections to news stories always make me want to puke.....
     
  10. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    as a resident of the united kingdom

    i can assure people

    to 'destroy' something

    can mean to just go crazy.

    i'm unsure whether this is slang to simply us.
     
  11. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    oh good god, America.

    Stupid country. Humorless country. Scary invasive country.

    Way to ruin tourism.

    that is just fucking ridiculous.
     
  12. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    after a second read

    though i don't think they should have been deported

    it was daft

    they did say some pretty stupid things

    things that didn't need to be said.

    please children

    let's not even joke about digging up dead bodies.
     
  13. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    I know, right? Let's grow our economy by making tourists from around the world afraid to even enter our soils because we have lost all sense of humor and friendliness. So bye-bye thousands of jobs in the tourism industry too!

    And I know it sounds like a stretch, but I guarantee tourists from Europe are going to think twice about vacationing and 'relaxing' in America after this news spreads around the Continent.
     
  14. skip

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    What you're not getting, and neither am I, is how, even if they found his tweets, could they definitely know it was this specific person who sent them?

    OK, so they subpoena Twitter, find his IP#, locate him, then go to his ISP and get the info from his account, which probably includes name and address. Then they filter that thru their visa application database? Wow, that's a lot of coincidences, and a lot of cooperation from Tech companies, in other countries, based on a couple of tweets?

    Talk about paranoia, and giving into the US so easily? This bodes ill for everyone using the Internet. The databases are all tied in now, and I'll bet they didn't even need a subpoena because it's probably not enforceable overseas, so there must be new legislation enabling this kind of privacy violation.

    You Brits better watch what you say on the Internets! Every fucking word you post is now being monitored... And your future will be affected...
     
  15. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    ^^^ This ^^^


    And it's not just Brits.... it's everybody
     
  16. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    Yea. Im sure there are worldwide hundrets and thousands of corporations, banks, insurances, police, secret services, governments, criminals and other who collect and process everything by everybody with very sophisticated computer programs and in real time, they know in real time where you are and what you are doing:bobby:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28956
     
  17. meridianwest

    meridianwest Senior Member

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    doesn't the twitter ask for your real address or something? or a phone number? sth like that? i don't own an account but a lot of internet sites do that. you gotta give them your street address. or the account is linked to an email address that has your street address. these two type in their real address and there you go.

    the address was enough to take them to security at the airport, it seems. it was specified in the official papers that they confirmed it themselves that the tweet came from their account. thus they provided the proof of identity all on their own. that's how i understand it.
     
  18. meridianwest

    meridianwest Senior Member

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    wasn't that the quote from Family Guy? i mean, i completely get the joke in that one, but it's the ultimate irony that they were deported over a phrase that came from US TV show. 20th Century Fox, no less. lols.
     
  19. cheesed629

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    Wow this is both sad and scary! No longer do the citizens of the world have the right to speak freely or privately for fear of persecution. You cant even talk privately in your own home anymore withput big brother watching. :icon_bs::icon_bs::icon_bs:
     
  20. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Everyone laughs and labels you a paranoid, believing in "conspiracy theories," anytime I or anyone else speaks up to this fact. The governments IS soaking up ALL electronic communications. ALL.
    This is the TRUTH.

    Laugh your way to the penal colony. (Concentration Camp. see Internment Camps) RE: the second Frank Zappa album [sic] the song "Concentration Moon", circa 1967.
    lyrics = http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/f/frank_zappa/concentration_moon.html
    READ BOTH VERSES.
    Does it remind you of Occupy Wall Street? And today? And not just 1967?

    ALL electronic communications. ALL.


    Echelon
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_(signals_intelligence)
    There was even a Discovery Channel show on all of this.
    True story. A grandmother and her grand son were talking on the phone about his plastic toy solders and they happened to say the word "Bomb" and a computer word sort put them both on a international terrorist list permanently. A four-year-old boy has a permanent record for life, that he'll go to his grave with. And a grandmother.
    - Discovery Channel show

    All internet. All phone. All text. All Morris code. ALL electronic communications. It all goes on government Super Computers. All.
    Stored permanently.
    All software screened and sorted. Voice, text, e-mail, posts, and other.
    All with Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How. Your name and personal ID stuff.

    Note. I started out in computers and programming back in 1979. Was on CompuServe with a phone MODEM abbreviation for (Modulate, DeModulate, {as in FM radio stand for "Frequency Modulation"}) long before the first "MOSAIC" and "Netscape" web browsers.

    The question:
    The base thought. In finding a public tweet. Search In finding a public tweet source. Search Warrants???

    No, they had his original home computer transmission where he typed the original text to Twitter. They didn't even need to see the Twitter page posting. Thus, they directly had his I.P. address with their software, in REAL TIME.

    Look at "IP address locator" to see your own IP address, location and info:
    http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm
    Question: How does this page know what your IP address is? Read the page.

    They've built their own IP address reverse directory. They build their own HACK software. It runs automatically on everything, worldwide. Why don't people get it?

    Why would anyone believe that they can't find YOU! Do you believe that they don't HACK Internet service providers, for some unknown reason? Especially foreign ones, where they have never needed a search warrant? Hey! Why Not? They know the individual author machine (home computer) of every piece of e-mail that goes across the entire World Wide Web, and the automatically save a copy of every e-mail. Did I say EVERY?

    Your Internet Service Provider assigns your specific home computer its own number. Each customer HAS A NUMBER. Just lie your individual phone number. You own number, computer, and your name and data.

    I don't get why NON-Techs refuse to believe these Facts.
    It's ALL Real.

    I hate to shatter anyone's innocents. You all live in a "Stasi World".
    My original Quote! © 1998. "Stasi World"
     

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