LSA is rather under-rated!

A few weeks ago I decided to buy some Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seed. I'd bought some before from a headshop but unfortunately shitall happened, even though I've read a lot where people have had some quite profound experiences with them. I then decided to check out some reputable online vendors instead of getting some more from a dodgey headshop, and got to iamshaman.com. I ordered 50 and they arrived last Thursday - with an extra 22 seeds - whoop! So now I just had to wait for my parents to bugger off for their weekend to the Lake District.
The time finally came so I had a quick tidy up, set out a load of 8hour tealights around my room and stuck a few incense sticks around.

To prep the seeds I scraped off the furry layer around 7 seeds, ground them up to a powder, squeezed a bit of lemon juice into a shot glass and added the seed powder. I let it chill in the lemon juice for around 30 minutes and then shotted it. I kept the seed mush under my tongue for another 20 minutes after squirming from the sourness of the lemon. After debating whether to spit or swallow the mush I just thought "fuck it" and swallowed it. As far as I noticed it didn't cause any extra nausea.

So yeah, here's the start of the timeline.

21:30 - Ingested. Rolling a few spliffs for the trip so I don't have to worry about doing it later if I feel I'd like a smoke.
21:54 - Somethings here, can't put my finger on what - just feeling different. Probably just a placebo
22:25 - Salivating, mixing words up - could be working!
22:37 - Can't stop smiling looking forward to this now. keep seeing minor things, but still could be a bit of placebo. definitely working though bit of nausea creeping up, think it's spliff time.
0:01 - just had the urge to pop on to hip and announce that i've ingested. dunno - feels good, bit mdma-ish so far - everythings feeling so good

That was the last time update, I wanted to just chill and enjoy the trip rather than coming back with updates.

Between 22:25 and 0:01 I went for a nice chilled walk around where I live. There wasn't a cloud in sight, and the sky was littered with stars. Unfortunately it's still winter and it was fucking cold, but luckily there wasn't any wind. I sparked my first spliff of the night and made my way down to take a walk next to the river that ran through one of the nearby villages. I sat down on one of the benches beside the river and listened to the sound of the running water, finished the spliff and noticed that the moon was starting to look different. I then walked back the way I came, but took a detour through a field to my house and had another spliff. I noticed I was becoming a bit indecisive, which was comforting because this was the first indication that the effects I thought I was feeling/seeing were not just placebo. I hadn't wasted my money again!
After I finished the spliff I crunched my way back through the frosty grass to my house, made my way upstairs, closed the door to my room, lit the candles, lit the incense, turned my lights off and stuck my headphones on. That's when I popped on to HipChat, and when I was feeling like I was coming up on a nugget of MDMA. Couldn't believe how happy I was feeling, I just wanted to talk to people and tell them how good I was feeling! I talked to some friends on FB who've been with me on all but one of my previous trips, and told them that so far these little seeds were looking pretty good so far!
I then signed out, and cracked a full pack of glowsticks. Snapping all of those little wands was a wonderful feeling! I threw them all over my bed, rolled over and closed my eyes whilst Spongle was blasting away in my ears. The guys a genius, "Invisible Man in a Flourescent Suit" was an incredible listening experience.
Around hour 3 after ingestion I was definitely hoping it would get stronger, even though I was enjoying the experience it just seemed to lack a bit of "umph". Thankfully it did, but it seemed to take forever to reach the peak of the experience. I took my shirt off and got underneath my covers, gathered up the glowsticks and arranged them as closely as I could get to the colour spectrum with the limited colours I had. I held them up infront of my eyes so they were all I could see, and slowly the colours began to seperate into platforms that would shift and change. I was actually surprised at how visual the seeds were, I was just expecting from the reports that it would have the headspace with some brightened colours and enhanced sounds but not much else - but my perception was fucked! After a while, the glowsticks became more of a window into a psychedelic "landscape". It wasn't really a landscape, but more of a long flat surface stretching and warping off into this hallucinated horizon. It was like a colourful Escher drawing, I would be looking at impossible shapes and forms that wouldn't make any sense at all.
I eventually surfaced from underneath my bedcovers. I'd forgotten at how stuffy it gets under there and even though I didn't feel too hot the cool air outside my duvet was so incredibly refreshing. I pulled the covers back and monged out again. I started running my hands over my face, and I got a mental image of what I look like, except it was very, very distorted and I could only picture the parts that my hand was touching.
Later on I took my headphones off and just lay there drifting in the currents of psychedelic thought patterns.
I woke at around 7AM because I forgot to turn my alarm off which kinda pissed me off at first, but then I realised I could watch the sunrise. I hadn't noticed myself fall asleep, and regretted the fact that I did. I got up anyway, still feeling a little spaced out and made my way downstairs, made a quick cup of tea and chilled on my doorstep as the sun came up in all its glorious colours. I thought about having another spliff then, but decided to just head upstairs and back to bed.

I woke feeling incredibly calm, refreshed and surprisingly alert without any sort of hangover, despite only having had a few hours of sleep.


All in all I'm very impressed with this investment, I wasn't expecting them to be nearly as psychedelic as they were, even after reading a load of trip reports. Although I didn't have any major epiphanies during the trip, it was still an awesome way for me to check out this new drug and has given me a fair bit of artistic inspiration. I look forward to some higher doses in the near future :sunny:

 

Seeds are great, nearly the only psych i take, they work for me as anti-deppresant and my mind has evolved so much since i started doing them, it's a work in progress. The thing is with the seeds is they are tempramental, it's ashame too many people write them off, persistance my freinds is rewarding.

 

Great report man! Ya, those seeds are surprisingly legit! I did the heavenly blues, but I just ordered some of these HBWR seeds hopefully here for the weekend. Could I ask you to expand on your prep method for the seeds? I want to avoid nausea as much as possible, and the taste was vial, I ate 450-500 of those seeds raw last time, worst thing I've ever done, haha!

I didn't really have a good first experience like you did, so I'm a little hesitant to give it another go, but I'm reading lots of positive reports on the HBWR seeds. Being in bed with the glow sticks would be fun though, the body high is quite heavy! I'd suggest following your CEVs if you ever try again, they seem a little stronger than the OEV. Maybe if you get ahold of some we should try dosing them the same day and talk over hip forums? Sometimes you can find new ways to experience a trip from someone new. Fun read though!

 

Awesome trip report! Eventhough I have yet to explore these seeds properly myself, I am very much a believer in them with the repeatedly amazing, not to mention versatile experiences they produce for others. The often reported nausea is one of the drawbacks for me which is why I haven't explored them yet but you are right, it is quite interesting they are often dismissed by many when there are so many reports of worthwhile experiences with LSA. I kind of get the impression there is sort of a shorter ceiling with LSA than with say LSD though like where the negative effects start to become detracting from the experience as the dose raises but I dunno, I look forward to subsequent TR's from you with LSA and let me know if there is any accuracy in my speculation there.

 

Nice report, man. I've had some amazing experiences with the seeds too.
My biggest problem with them has been the vaso-constriction they cause me. In my last trip with them I had acute pains in my biceps and thighs and my fingers and toes felt very cold. Prior to this trip, I had been using them quite frequently for a few months, so perhaps theres a cumulative vaso-constriction effect?

Due to the above, I havent used the seeds in awhile...but might give them another go soon.

Peace!

 

They aren't underrated by me! Incredibly powerful stuff, but I need at least 16 seeds to get the full impact of the trip which is more similar to LSD. 7 seeds wouldn't do anything for me, just make me nauseous. The physical effects of the actual seeds are the worst part for me.

 

Just before I reply to these, I had a 2nd trip a few nights ago and it was a very different experience so I'll reference a bit of that as well. TR being started today, dunno when I'll finish it. Once it's done I'll just bump this thread with it.

Yeah man, very worth while experience.

I didn't do much really. I shoved the seeds in a mortar and pestle after scraping off the fur, then pounded them to break them up(careful, the seeds fly everywhere), then just continuously ground them to a fine powder. Took some effort though, they're tough little bastards! I then squeezed half a lemon into a shot glass, added the powder, stirred it a bit so most of the powder was sitting in the lemon juice and left it for half an hour. Finally drank it, filtered the mush through my teeth so I didn't swallow that and let whatever was left just sit in my mouth until I decided to swallow it.
It's worth a look at this though.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_extraction2.shtml

I literally had no nausea at all on this first trip after I smoked a few J's - MJ is really a miracle cure, but I did feel it dumbed down a lot of the trip which is why in my 2nd trip I didn't smoke any. Unfortunately the nausea got pretty uncomfortable for the first hour or 2, but it faded after that. The feeling I was left with was the same as when you munch shrooms, you can feel them in your stomach but it doesn't get in the way of the trip.
I'm not sure on the higher doses, hopefully I'll shed some light on it in the future
I will say that the main difference between LSA and LSD is that LSA seems to be a very grounded trip. My experiences with LSD have blown my mind, but this seems to be a "gentler" trip - at least around the 7/8 seed range.

Yeah I had some minor muscle pains, and felt very weak - fingers and hands feel very tingly too. It could be cumulative, but the symptoms are definitely there without prior dosage.

Yeah, next trip I'm going for around that area. I was going to on my 2nd, but wasn't really feeling in the mood for a higher dose so I munched 9 instead.

 

Thanks meaty mushroom! That at least sounds like a better way to disguise the taste if nothing else! And GB, I'd recommend you just give it a go, I read about another method just recently where you take some medicine about thirty minutes before you dose, while doing this pound up lemon juice technique, then either just hold it and swallow it, or hold it and down it with a cup of Oranje juice, the only really annoying part would be the first two hours of nausea, so I can't say yet if this method will work for sure. But worst case just tough it through those two hours and you should have a strong trip

 

LSA worked for me as an amazing anti-depressant the "after glow" would last for weeks on end and i could not wipe the smile from my face, the euphoria i got while on LSA was nothing ive ever experienced from other psychedelics either. The main issue i found was cardiovascular & the horrid gut feeling & eventually i just stopped using LSA.

On another note the NBOMe class of drugs ive found to have the same sort of after effects that i previously drew from LSA.

 

You seem to have had similar experiences to myself...the euphoria was truly amazing.
Even on the come down, I remember waves of pure ecstasy washing over me....like multiple orgasms, only somewhat stronger!

 

Great trip report. Did you fire up some weed the morning after the trip? If so, how was it? After a DXM trip I can fire up weed the next day and it's like I have zero tolerance to the stuff, just like when I first smoked it.

 

It wasn't anything special to be honest, not that I can remember anyway. It was later that night cos I had work in the afternoon so I didn't light up in the morning, I would have liked to though