Another thought regarding OWS and Anonymous

Just a general question,

Does anyone else think discussions of anonymous deserve their own forum section much as OWS has gotten the oppertunity for?

Personally my vote goes to the Yes box as they have clearly done more to influence the hearts and minds of our opressors far more than the passsive and listless banner wavers,,,

Not to discount the brave stance of the OWS movement at all, but a real physical threat against a system as opposed to a perceived potential of something remotely resembling a potential annoyance to me is something I'd think there would be more eager discussion of, especially since America has made it quite clear we will not accept SOPA or any bastardized version of such legislation and there will be hell to pay for those who try to go against the will of WE THE PEOPLE!!

 

I voted no.

If Anonymous wants to be recognized as the same or better than OWS then the revolution is over and a reactionary phase has begun.

Reaction is inevitable. Allowing it to triumph over revolution is not. Don't be the usher of doom.

 

Anonymous = CIA

 

Pushing a corrupt system may eventually bring about slow and sublte change but the core of the rotten apple will remain,,,

Rock the Vote.

Anonymous is the perfect model for a true democratic government, no need for republic, no need for middlemen politicians, merely a massive collective of voters online, faceless, we the people, no lobbying, no bloated infrastructure costs as we have with our current establishment for simple paper pushers and mouthpieces.

Is there the chance that there would be corruption? Hackers occasionally tossing the balance off in their favor now and then till the collective figured it out and self corrected the problem? Certainly, but accountability will be there as the collective WILL find the Culprits and bring them to justice unlike our current structure of one hand washing the other, Senators sheltering corporate criminals, pardoning their corrupt counterparts will come to an end unlike with any other option. It will break the Corporate Monopoly on the American political structure, whatever final form it may take.

America is hailed as a great social experiment, well maybe it's time to let Evolution take place for a change instead of stagnating with the Washington Luddite fat cats who were born with a silver spoon on forked tounge and a passion for business as usual.

Vote No Confidence to the current political structure come 2012, vote Anonymous!

 

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That is a great poster. So true.

 

To get rid this system which is installed through all layers of a country, in almost all countries worldwide it would take a much bigger effort than French, Russian and many other revolutions combined...especially since their (weapons) technological power is more scary than ever before.

 

Well sure, applies perfectly to the current political structure without a doubt,,, but a vote for anonymous would not be a vot cast for business as usual, it would be a vote cast from true change of the political system from the ground up.

An elimination for the need to spend Millions nationwide on the maintenace alone of the brick and mortar structures used to house the very individuals who've been misusing the public trust for the past 60 years right off the top,,,

You are also voting to remove the power of the lobbyist from holding particular sway against an individual who held any degree of power, instead lobbyists would be forced to sell their notions and agendas by merit of value to society as a whole as this new politcal form would be a mere social networking forum at heart much like facebook is now,,,

We as a whole people would be the ones to make the final decision as to if we wanted to preemptively strike against our supposed enemies abroad,,, or collectively as to wether we felt our nation had any true business in trying to play Puppet master with foriegn nations in the first place which in turn would pretty much eliminate the bulk of any America may view as a threat as simple as that.

I'm still working on the full list of Pro's to the idea,,, but by all means PLEASE do your due dillegence in thinking out this notion as at least a conceptual excercise and let me know wherein you find the flaws I would LOVE negative criticisims and to hear all the possible ways this could be anything other than a Great idea,,, thats essentially the heart of the idea right there,,, One nation acting as a collective on it's own will and not simply the misguided notions of Men who are led by their lusts and vices, finding the common grounds via the organic balance of Public opinion.

Imbalance in equality amongst citizens would certainly have to be a great deal more adaptive and responsive when time came for self correcting as it would be a matter of posting and sharing and liking and caring...

 

Well, we can sit around and pine about how immense a task it would be or we can go about seeking the most effective means of accomplishing this goal,,,

For starters I dont think it should be handled as a Revolutionary change per se, but rather something that even those in power could not help but accept as a wise and rational move, not a bullet fired, not a life lost to the process,,, or at least first allow for it to be a rational move on the part of those who have become too comfortable in their granted positions of power over the masses,,,

 

One problem is that nowdays as soon as 2 or more people gater (via internet or others) to speak about anything like politics, society, economy,...you have the CIA/others in your boat with you. And they know 1000 ways to corrupt, influence, hijack, threaten, blackmail or manipulate (almost) everybody.

 

what Ive done so far is spending time in autharcy almost without money, on farm collectives, trying to be self sufficiant.
To go some place where you can live with the smallest amount of money is a good thing to do.
Its also the most efficiant way of getting rid of the system: exchanging instead of buying/selling.

 

I voted 'no' for the simple reason that HF and Anon both draw enough pig attention on their own.

BTW, +1midgardsun
F the system, I don't need them. I grow my own food, and money is meaningless.

 

Well this is true, look what they've done to America as it is right?


But sticking with the same old song and dance offers no hope of any improvements beyond the superficial comforts we find ourselves handed down by our corporate masters when they're feeling gregarious,,, and any vote into what Washington has offered us thus far is simply a vote for the same old Vaudvillian act...

 

The money we would save on janitorial services alone in federal buildings could ensure EVERY American would have a PC with internet access, ensuring their ability to fully participate in our reformed political system as equals regardless of social status or available bandwidth.

 

Giving each american a pc only ensures that the cia can track them better.

 

Irrelevant at that point really, they would be no better than any other citizen, if allowed to remain as an organization at all.

 

If Anonymous gets a section then we need another section called the "2nd amendment".

In this part of the forum everyone will learn about the second amendment, how to buy, load, carry, fire, clean, equipt, disarm all artillery.

I believe this could be really beneficial.

Schools should be teaching everyone this as well, since the children are going to grown up in a prison...we might as well teach them how to escape at a young age...

 

didn't hf already have an anonymous section, and then have to remove it because it was nothing but trolls?

 

What other kind of masks could Anonymous use? Guy Fawkes is played out.