whats the best legal psychedelic?

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by T Swank88, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. T Swank88

    T Swank88 Member

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    title says it all, whats the best legal psychedelic besides salvia? I live in a shit hole place and have never seen lsd, shrooms, or anything besides weed, coke, and pillls come by. I've never tried psychedelics and so i was wondering if there are any good legal things to try.
     
  2. meestersiggies

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    AMT (alpha methyl tryptamine) perhaps? i've not tried it myself but that would be my first assumption if any
     
  3. dreamsDOcomeTRUE

    dreamsDOcomeTRUE KYTLIVE

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    good question
     
  4. T Swank88

    T Swank88 Member

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    looked it up on erowid, its illegal
     
  5. felix4life

    felix4life Member

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    Probably 4aces or 2c-x.
     
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    tablespoon of gasoline in a metal can..
     
  7. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    The 2c- family is not bad, but have a very steep dose response curve and require the right scale to be safe.
     
  8. aesthetic

    aesthetic Z

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    Mushroooomsssss

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhjG47gtMCo"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhjG47gtMCo
     
  9. krozar

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    I've had a lot of fun with DXM. Add in some Goa trance with Milkdrop2 visualizer in a dark room and it's a ride through space. The other night I was just barely into 3rd plateau and felt like I was laying on my back for over an hour while sitting at my comp. The comedown is very nice too, hours of chill and the ability to meditate if you've never done it or terrible at it.

    Available right at your local store. Just get the one with only Dextromethorphan HBr. My syrups or elixirs are 15mg/5ml in a 118oz bottle. I have to do at least 3 but I weigh 220lbs/100kg. Here is a dosing guide: http://dxm.darkridge.com/calc.html

    Yes, just because it also happens to work well for coughs still makes it a serious drug.

    Remember, if you take a lot of DXM and you start to feel like something is very wrong, find the harmony/rhythm. A DXM trip is all about finding the harmony. Once you find harmony you will feel amazing. You'll know what I mean once you're there.

    (bear with me because I feel like doing a lot of typing)

    It progresses like this:

    1. Feel like you just smoked some crack or meth, about 2 hits. You have that euphoria and feel like being very social and can't sit still for long.
    2. Start to feel itchy (avoid scratching, it's just the histamine reaction and will subside).
    3. Feeling hot, make sure you have a fan pointing at you. The stronger the heat, the more likely you're going to 3p or beyond.
    4. Losing orientation. When in a room, we have a sense of direction. You may feel like you're on an opposing wall or even on your back. You may also feel like you're spinning. Once again, this is normal. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
    5. You lose which eye is your strong eye. Normally we see primary out of our right eye and the left eye adds to it. But at this stage both eyes are in a tug of war on who is the dominant. So you'll see something kinda hopping back and forth.
    6. Welcome to the 3rd plateau. This is where mind and body are now hallucinating. Your somatosensory system (wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatosensory_system ) will begin to lose control and your sense of "body" will begin to disappear. You may feel like your body is very tiny while your head is massive and you may feel as though you're sitting far above the ground.
    7. At this point to begin to lose your sense of "me". Your ego starts to deteriorate as well as language. You may begin thinking without language at all and instead think in emotion.
    8. At this stage you're only thinking in DISCORDANCE or CONCORDANCE. You're like an atom or chemical compound in the universe. You either feel in tuned with your hallucinatory surroundings or you don't. This is where you need to find the harmony. Think in rhythm. You find at this point that harmony is the secret of the whole universe. Everything int he universe seeks harmony with its surroundings, from atoms, molecules, chemical compounds, planets, etc.
    9. You left your whole body, you don't feel it at all. You're in a world of light, darkness, and color. Hold that rhythm and enjoy the ride my friend.

    The comedown from 4p is interesting because there is a point where you see yourself and your own body as a complete stranger. You may even say to myself: "I am [your name]" to tell yourself who you are. At this stage you become amazed at how deep and intricate the sense of self really is. It's quite immense. Take note of this as it can help you in your ride through life. I find that with DXM you can learn a lot about yourself. Don't get scared here because it's quite normal. Your language and body comes back at this point.

    During the next part you feel the immensity of everything. I call this the "Mines of Moria" stage because the Mines of Moria (in LOTR) has been dug out for thousands of years by potentially millions of dwarves and is immense beyond measure to the point where the thought is scary. You feel the immensity of life itself and of the universe and it scares you a bit. You may even feel the immensity of other things such as even the Internet.

    Now comes the chill state and where you start to regain full orientation of the world around you. This is where you go to Nirvana radio (Shoutcast) or ambient music. Use this opportunity to meditate. It will last for hours. You'll feel a sense of great peace and time to reflect on your experience. If you are asking yourself a question that you can't figure out, here is the time to go over the experience and how it may help you answer questions about yourself.

    DXM can be an experience where you can learn a lot about yourself because you feel all aspects of yourself leave and return one by one.
     
  10. learn2see

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    You could try morning glory seeds. I took one pack before and I was getting slight visuals but they're gross and you might puke. Probably would want to buy a few packs. Be sure to rinse them off first or you'll get really sick.. It would be best if you got mushrooms or LSD sorry about your predicament.
     
  11. Black_Lotus

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    If you're interested, buy some seeds with LSA in them, heavenly blue morning glories were what I tried, after an hour of nausea it's a full-on trip. Ordered roughly 500 straight off of amazon all legal, no questions asked. Can't say big brother doesn't notice though, huh
     
  12. MeatyMushroom

    MeatyMushroom Juggle Tings Proppuh

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    Big brother can suck my dick :sunny:

    I'd go with LSA. HBWR seeds if you don't like munching a load of baby seeds, cos instead of eating hundreds you can stick to singles figure digits ;)
     
  13. T Swank88

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    yeah ive tried robo-trippin before, one of the worst experiences in my life. Felt like my head was on fire when it first started to kick in and i threw up a lot. I think imma try and go with the lsa seeds. Just hope i dont throw it all up
     
  14. chaos_reigns

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    LSA is a decent compound, but the carrying agent (morning glory/hbwr seeds) is absolutely vile to consume. Unless you have the inclination and ability to pull off a proper extraction, expect severe nausea and vasoconstriction. Kind of like DXM in and of itself has great value, but the side effects from consuming large amounts of cough medicine tarnish the experience.

    Methoxetamine is the best legal hallucinogenic around today, and arguably best drug in existence. People order it off the internet and it changes their lives.
     
  15. krozar

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    I've never done LSA, so I am interested in it as well. The vasoconstrition part bothers me. I have had a bad experience with the vasoconstriction properties of meth during a 3-day meth tweak. The veins in my hands disappeared (and I have big ones), BP shot up, and panic ensued. Never touched the stuff again. How bad is that?
     
  16. chaos_reigns

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    It can range from mildly uncomfortable to potentially gangrenous. A lot of psychedelics can cause vasoconstriction but nothing I've taken felt as severe as HBWR seeds. On a physical level LSA containing seeds are considerably more toxic than LSD.
     
  17. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Many research chemicals are in the legal gray area. It is worth a look although I won't promote their use.
     
  18. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    Probably something like 4-aco-dmt.
     
  19. Drugreference

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    agreed
     
  20. Black_Lotus

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    I'm gonna give LSA another go, maybe this weekend, with the HBWR seeds this time. Can anyone verify if 5 of those are a good trip? I'll have a pack of 10, 1 month sober
     

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