Random Thought on our Culture

I been noticing a lot of people talking about the occupy movement and the bullshit that the government has been giving us as of the late years. People are blaming the government and their bullshit for what is going on what we really should not be blaming them. If you want to blame the government for the bullshit then you shouldn't. You need to blame yourself. We the people are the world who are not in the government should be blamed. WE allowed this tyranny to happen and the bullshit to carry on. WE allowed it to happen because, most people are to busy working their ass off for the stupid piece of paper that runs the world. Then you have the youth that are to busy with facebook or twitter. To busy with social networks and the internet. To busy with caring what artist fucked what artist and what lil wayne is doing. We need to stop this bullshit. Stop believing the money currency. Stop believing in government. Stop believing in numerous other things and start believing in change. Not just small change but a huge change. Not just believe it but make the effort to make a change. People tend to say yea the world should change and it would be cool for it to change but it never will. It is that thinking that makes change impossible. START BELIEVING AND IT WILL HAPPEN.

 

i remember the last time people believed in change...

 

I believe that children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be

 

People will always assign blame, it absolves the individual of responsibility.

 

The Occupy people are clueless idiots. Not that they don't have a reason to be angry, they just don't know who or what they're angry at. The entire system and the people who control it are at the root of the problem and always will be unless people focus OFF the distractions given to them by the media. Occupy Wall Street is controlled opposition with major funding behind it. The protesters are being used as pawns in the game.

Anyway, culture is fake. "American culture" is an oxymoron.

 

If you hit this when you type, magic happens.

 

I actually said to myself the other day that i really should start becoming aware of the shit thats going down in the modern day world.....And to the dude who called him a idiot, thats very war-like..Why cant you voice your opinion and have a civilized debate

 

Lots of people quick to condenm other people and their thoughts...So for all of you who feel you have the answer please share it that we may save ourselves from ourselves. Pretty boring to see someone present an idea and the rock throwers come out but leave nothing constructive...just the rubble they threw. What good is that?

I don't claim to have answers but civility toward others would be a decent start for any efforts we make.

 

Well said!! :iagree:

 

I can't change the world until it is ready to be changed. Not my problem.

I moved away from the USA. If you do not like something. Vote with your feet and leave.

I could care less about Hollywood or the latest television show. But there is definitely some cool music and dance out there. You just have to find it and give it a chance.

I am a Capitalist and do not apologize for it.

The government is the problem, but again I am not tied to the USA so they can go ahead and screw everyone and they will.

At least I am not the victim.

Turn up the music and dance.

 

If you want to get something good, sometimes you have to give something good.

People who have serious things to say about the issues presented here are likely the types to respond to more specific and intelligent main ideas.
Phrases like 'stop believing in the money currency (?), stop believing in government, stop believing in numerous other things' give little to the overall appeal of the original post and I am left wondering just exactly what it is trying to say.

For instance, a change is suggested but not described. I am told to stay off of social networking sites, while this is posted on one. Is this the change suggested?

Or is the change suggested giving up on money? This seems to be a common theme in the threads I argue in.

(Capitalism FTW etc)

I would like to hear from the OP about just what sort of change should take place. More descriptive, coherent posts lead to more productive conversation.

 

what if his opinion is that the OP is an idiot?

 

I think if I could pick one basic problem among the myriad that we have I would concern myself with population growth. The whole human race breeds like rats and we're depleting our resourses. If I were young and wanted to champion a cause I'd look into that. At nearly 66 I'll continue what I've always done and that is working with the young people and specifically with those who have been harmed /wounded in some way by society. There are amazing numbers of people who can overcome their injuries and contribute to society. Some of these wounded pups have gained great insights and can offer solutions I overlook. My approach is on the microlevel, a few kids at a time and as much quality as I can offer them. Other people choose other approaches. Theres sure enough work for any and all who would like to make real change.

 

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I've been traveling across the country for the past few days and have seen a lot and been through a lot that I had never expected. our country is no longer wearing diapers but becoming that child who just learned how to say "no"; we're young and its not that we're becoming derailed or the gov. is trying to run our lives but that we're maturing as a nation and humans are naturally resistant to change. its scary because no one knows what's best and those who think they do seem to take the wrong approach. the american dream has died and been replaced with self righteous practices that no longer benefit everyone except the individual or minority in attempt to balance the scale. if you're not with someone you're against them, if you don't see eye to eye than its because you're right and they're wrong. we as a nation are experiencing unexpected change and are reacting as any individual would, by lashing out. whether or not its for better or worse is up for the individuals to decide, but no matter what change is inevitable and all we can do is influence it.

the occupy movement is that kid who wanted a candy bar and got an apple, now throwing a fit on the grocery store floor; but rather than doing what is needed to get that candy bar accuses the store for not only selling candy bars... in laymen terms.

 

The Occupy Movement is not contained only to the USA. There is a whole world of people who are discontent with the status quo.

 

the effect of a generation of 'participation plaques', (as I remember from a source I cannot recall), where competition is eliminated and everyone wins....

...until they enter the real world, where participation (like in college, for instance) doesn't guarantee success.

 

Too bad the status quo is behind OWS.

 

well college shouldn't guarantee success because it is not required, just like anything not required. I'm not well informed on the movement itself, what I said was based on observations and interpretations of what I heard participants protesting. without competition there is no improvement because if everyone won then the bad ideas would be just as succesful as the good, creating a plateau in progress.

I hope I'm reading what you said correctly

 

One of the demands made my Occupy Peeps is 'student loan debt forgiveness'.
My point was it seems to me that most occupy advocates are such because of lack of success. Competition is natural and necessary, but a 'generation of participation plaques' pretty much means that these people may not have had to work hard for anything and are disappointed that success=hard work.
Think of a children's sports team, everyone wins. The losers and the winners are equally successful.

Relevant picture I saved a couple months ago:

 

Yeah, I supported the Occupy movements at first, but those "I signed up to receive a loan for college but now that I can't find a job I shouldn't have to pay it back" idiots are probably the #1 thing that ruined it for me. Though I can't really talk because I've been fortunate enough to have parents that are supporting me financially until I finish nursing school. But when I do get a real job later this year, I will start to pay back my loans and not complain about it.

I am not a capitalist, for many reasons. I'm not against competition however.

I think I feel on the outside of all of these economic/social debates because it is my personal philosophy on life that nobody deserves anything--good OR bad. Basically the exact opposite of Karma, and the opposite of capitalism.

People have fallen for the "American dream" lie that if you "work hard" (which can mean a lot of different things depending on who you ask) you DESERVE to have a certain standard of living--even if it means screwing up the world's resources and generally not giving a shit about anyone but yourself. Likewise, I also take issue with the belief that if you don't have a job, you DESERVE to starve to death out in the cold. Laziness is not a good thing, obviously, but Americans act like it should be punishable by death.

So what if some losers want to mooch off the system? It's their life that they're whittling away without a sense of purpose or accomplishments to be proud of. And so what if "my" tax dollars go to them? I didn't deserve that money to begin with anyway. And I'd rather it be spent on impoverished people stuck in survival mode than on another war, or building yet another military weapon.

I think a lot of people will stop being so discontent with the economy when they let go of their sense of entitlement--whether they're poor college kids, welfare queens, Wall Street bankers or CEOs, the thing they all seem to have in common is that they feel that for whatever reason, they deserve more. I understand people have needs, and I'm not suggesting that economic/social discontent is never justified--a lot of times it is. And I'm not suggesting that people stop complaining about things in the world that they feel are morally reprehensible and just be complacent--we would still be in the dark ages if that were the case.

I guess what I'm saying is pick your battles. I fully agree with the Occupiers claims that rich people don't deserve to own the world just because they "worked hard." But we don't deserve it either.