Bk-MDMA being sold as molly, now friend has bad side effects.

So there is a FLOOD of bk-MDMA being sold as Molly in my area, my friend went on a small binge on it and now is suicidal. Not sure what to do for him. He is paranoid, has anxiety, severely depressed and wants to end his life. I have finly tested his batch and it came back as methylone.


I'm not sure what to take of this epidemic. There is a bunch around and all of this "Molly" I have tested is bk. I feel bad for my friend and for my community.

 

Sucks, those close to him should probably spend a lot of time with him in the next couple weeks or direct him to some help, have him refrain from drugs. Methylone is illegal now in the U.S. so if that's where you live it probably shouldn't be a problem much longer.

 

He has been staying at my house for about a week now. Every time I bring him home when he wants or feels he can go, he can't handle being alone. I just go pick him back up. I do see progress, but I feel so bad.

I know of alot of it around, so it's not going away any time soon unfortunately. It is scheduled where I'm at.

 

Yeah, being legal meant that many people bought many kilos while they could. Will be around for a long time in a lot of places.

Simply let everyone that you know that takes it hear exactly what it is they're taking, and understand that they're being gypped by someone who holds their health and physical/mental sovereignty in contempt.

 

I have tested it in front of many ppl and informed them that it's not MDMA, and that it does get you high but it's not the best for you. Whoever brought it in is making bank though, at $150 a gr and $1500 a oz. Bk is so cheap, and this person is going to be a millionaire. Lol

It has just ruined the Molly scene now, no one knows how to tell the difference for sure. Not sure if there is any fixing it now.

I'm glad my friend has us to take care of him, cause I believe he would have done it if I didn't pick him up and insist he stayed at my house. The first 3 days was not at his will.

 

That sucks, sounds like you got a lot of unexperienced rolling friends.

I got bk-mdma sold as molly once when it was legal and I could tell right away it was not MDMA, that was my first ever bk-mdma experience too. Even my friend who took it had never heard of bk-mdma before and he straight up left pissed off 2 hours into it :rofl:

I'm glad I don't live in your area with that situation going on.

 

150/g? Who the fuck is paying that? The shits only half as strong as MDMA in the first place.....

As for your friends effects, I'm sorry, but MDMA isn't the greatest for you either, I personally know of no reason to assume methylone is worse.... may be better, for all I know. His effects are due to binging, the same thing will happen if you binge on MDMA. Given that it's, again, about twice as strong as methylone, he would probably have worse effects if he'd binged on real MDMA.

His use of the drug is the problem. He needs a lecture on redosing behavior, because if you dose because you've got a hangover, the next one will be many magnitudes worse, and worse for you. If you do it for a while you can seriously fuck your shit up. Keep him away from drugs.

 

I've had pills that I was sure either contained BK or 6apb. Like MDMA .. but shorter lasting ... massive come up but no plateau.

I've never done Benzo-angry before .. but I've heard a lot about it and the legal status in the UK made me think it might be that.

It could be something like MDEA as I've had this before and it was similar.

Or I could of just done too much MDMA in the past and severely offset my receptors.


Either way, there's no doubt that black market drugs are riddled with problems.

 

What's wrong with the good old narcotics like MDMA? Damn whippersnappers with your new toys

I've not seen methylone passed as molly here amazingly, meth is much more likely to be the secret ingredient around here. and yeah those prices are ridiculous. here "speedy m" goes for 50/g.

As for your friend I think you're doing all you can. Binging on any serotonin bomb is going to be completely disastrous. The worst part is that the disaster is fairly long term and can be subtle on a day to day basis. It can be difficult to concretely measure things like "10% more depressed and 10% more anxious" when it comes on slowly over the course of a bad habit and lingers around for months, years, decades, a lifetime. So many people are oblivious to their internal mental state and in denial that the fat rails of shit they do every night/weekend are affecting that.

 

We have overpriced shitty product in my area. No one has really had good Molly and only gets shitty pills. Real Molly goes for 150-200 here, lol.

I didn't know he went on such a binge, and personal problems while high did him in. He not taking any drugs but ganja and he's kinda just wanted a vacation from everyone so we turned his phone off. Only important people know hes ok at my house. He's doing better daily, and I know he will be alright with good support and straight heads to talk to.

Sucks this stuff is so easy to pass off though, I mean I knew it wasn't Molly just by looking at it. But not everyone knows.

 

I wish people would start treating "MDMA replacements" more similar to MDMA than coke and stop binging on stuff like M1 cuz it's cheap. Binging on MDMA would probably not be even a tiny bit better.

Right now I find bk-MDMA as good if not better than MDMA. Still they aren't really that similar at all.

 

I feel like MDMA and all it's shit analogs are like a clump of dissonant notes, roughly transcribed from the glorious phenethylamine symphony that mescaline cacti provides. they are hinting at the sublime sense of empathy and connection that the cactus delivers freely, but they are short lived and with blowback from serotonin transport terminal injury can have long-term consequences. MDMA's effects are notoriously fleeting. The cactus empathy is long lived and instead of harming the sensitive axon terminals of your SERT system, It provides a rather generous healing.

Man is come and will go in the blink of an eye. MDMA has only been around less than a century. The earth has perfected her biochemical evolutionary laboratory for aeons. fuck your stupid pills. eat a cactus.

 

^ Oh yah you sound real empathic there

 

I didn't think I sounded like anything since its text on a screen.
Oh so quick to judge aren't we guerilla?
Besides how would you recognize empathy in a statement that is not about a someone else but a thing? Your sarcastic tone there is soo empathetic right??

let's be honest mdma sucks and is mostly made from destroying endangered species of camphor trees for profits that supports drug syndicates and asian crime families as well as wook drug dealers.

 

'Fuck your stupid pills.' Was what I was referring too.

I don't care to get in a pissing contest about what drugs are better but anyone with the slightest knowledge about psychedelics knows that mdma has had beneficial, valuable, often therpeutic experiences for many people.

 

Yeah it's therapeutic in the hands of a psychotherapist with a PTSD patient.

Not in the hands of ravers or people chewing their face off on the couch rubbing themselves and telling their best friend how much they REALLLLLLLLLLLY love the way their shirt looks. And certainly not therapeutic or valuable for the people that use it long term and fry their serotonin axial terminals into little shriveled fragments of their former structure. I took it a few times in the past I can honestly say for most people I knew that got into pure MDMA it was detrimental for them. The only reason it wasn't for me was because I didn't abuse it heavily for long periods. I sure wouldn't call it beneficial. I felt really good for a few hours that's it. No profound realization, just drug-induced euphoria... I suppose that's the benefit. I guess meth, crack, heroine cocaine and others are beneficial too in the same regard no?

 

^I've used MDMA long term and met many amazing people, discovered and appreciated more music through MDMA than any other psychedelic and discovered much about myself and others through the drug as well. Certainly has been way more beneficial for me than cocaine was, maybe it's just not a drug for you or maybe you did not figure out how to correctly utilize it. There is obviously something unique about it to maintain the culture that it has over the years which has only flourished if anything and it's continual integration into various therapy.

Some of the stuff surrounding MDMA is not necessarily great such as the rate of adultaration and other drugs being passed off as MDMA like this thread suggests, but Mescaline is not above that either, Research chemicals often get passed off as mescaline as well.

 

My friend overdosed on it and had a psychotic episode... Along with hallucinations and everything. He recovered from it but he was super anxious for a few days.

 

About 90% of the so called "illgeal harvesting" of trees that would contain precursors are done for legit reasons such as perfumes. Sustained farming of Sassafras trees is also very possible.

As for the wook dealers and crime families. I will give you that one, those sort of people do get involved with anything that makes money, and MDMA makes money.

 

Even they can have more benefits. It's childish to divide drugs on evil and good ones. It's like most of the children are learned to think all drugs are bad. Some start learning facts and at first usually they smoke cannabis cuz it's not a drug and they would feel bad taking real drug xD! After that some realize potential that psychedelics have and that they can cause profound realizations and life changing experiences.. Still most of them looks at other drugs as evil. Some take opiates as starting point of evilness, some stimulants, some K, some MDMA, some anything synthetic, etc...

Is any drug 100% on the good side, no. Not there is such thing on this plane of reality. It's up to person where he/she will stop. And it's up to person how much positive will be gained from experience. Any substance can be soma if used properly, any!

I much prefer psychedelics and disociatives to stimulants and opiates. Still opiates can produce beautiful dreamlike state and can be used to relax and regenerate, to have beautiful conversations, to have very long sex, to ease the pain, for social situations etc. It all depends of person, some will end up like junkies while some use it rarely without problem.
Coke? Experience with strong dose of extremely pure coke helped me to deal with some things in my past life. Clear mind, extreme euphoria and wonderful conversation where enough to overcome that problem.
You didn't mention K which would be great example of what can be gained from it. Fucked up personality, bladder, addiction or wonderful positive effects. It's up to person again.

Judging about substance out of one negative experience is not something I'm gonna comment. Some people do that with acid too for example, fist negative/underwhelming experience and they think it's better they stick to smoke.

Also one drug alone might not be effective but combo with something else might me what are you looking for. Why should anyone look at DMT + MAOi combo different than LSD + MDMA? Maybe you need to add acid, mescaline or something else to gain good things from MDMA. Or just think about disociatives and psychedelic combos, they really make shine each other.