There seems to only be a shortage of jobs for stupid people.

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What are you replying to?

That a person uses skills, endurance, experience and fortitude to ensure that they meet the requirements of that job and ensure that they have a job in the future has nothing to do with your post and response.

It is not always about technology, it is about people and the skills the possess that are viable and often transposable in current markets.

 

well, i'm going to save myself the trouble of ripping the op a new one.
you all are doing one hell of a fine job for me at that!
:cheers2:

 

Robots can do your job, its not a pure expression of full capabilities of man and the human soul. Thats why it is looked down on. It's not pushing the boundary.

Someone invents a taco vending machine and taco bell is out of business (of course I am assuming that you work at a taco bell). But the same is true for anything, hamburger vending machine what not. And before you get off on the idea with a phrase 'taco vending machine', I do not mean premade tacos in a vending machine. I mean some machine that internally can cook all the food, dish it out in a taco shell, and then clean itself internally and cook new food for the next day.

I used to work at a deli, making sandwiches slicing meats, I loved it in an odd way. Lots of exercise, meeting people, working with your hands. It had alot of satisfaction. It's actually a deep longing passion of mine to be JUST a baker, just bake bread, for hours everyday.

But those are jobs for robots. If you do a job for a robot, you have a clock on your head for survival. The future is not baking bread, making sandwiches, or making tacos, the future is in making the ROBOT to make the bread for you, make the taco for you, make the sandwich for you.

Or become a true culinary artist and top chef. There will always be a need for true culinary artists, just as there is a need for all artists. But to just be a production line worker, doing the same thing over and over? It's for robots. Make the robot to replace yourself or move on to something that a robot can't do.

 

Rygoody you have not listed your skills nor your attributes that make you employable.

What can you give me, experience, history, education and overall character that makes me wish to offer you a condition of employment?

Please include skill set, verifiable references and something that is going to tweak me into even granting you an interview.

Please do so.

 

Hello,

the poster might be suffer of feelings of insecurity or something like that. Most, if not all, top engineers I know don't share his opinion. They are aware that they are, for what reason ever, in a privileged position and that there are others that do good and hard work, too. The geeks I know tend to 'rate' people by their technically skills and by the elegance of the work/solutions they provide. But this 'rating' is not a good vs bad thing, it's more about finding people that are interesting enough to talk to on a geek level.

Regards
Gyro

 

I don't mean to be insulting. Maybe a little bit. But surely I have dear friends holding those jobs that I love very much and would never dare call stupid. Or I would never dare put down. But they're jobs that anyone can do, they are easily replaceable jobs. They are jobs for people who don't intellectually and cognitively push themselves to the limit of what the human brain can do. They are jobs that ALOT of people are trying to get because alot of people can do them. The more diffucult tasks you can take on, the more specialized you become in an in-demand field, the less competition there is. Until you get far enough, and there is no competition, its companies worried that some other company is going to steal you away by offering a higher salary.

I am starting to get a bit frustrated with the whole state of the world. I know people twice my age struggling, barely able to take care of their family, losing their family. So many friends of struggling, depressed, afraid of job stability, not able to fully pay their bills, or cover their health care costs. And then there is me, who a little bit retarded to be honest, completely socially inept, writes english in a weird way, didn't have sex till I was 24, a little psychologically fucked from lsd. I can't hold a 'comfortable' conversation with 90% of the people out there. But I know how to program at an extremely complex and diffucult level that most people just can't seem to comprehend... and companies offer me alot of money to do so... I'm not that special. Im really really dumb in almost everything. But being able to grapple high level programming concepts really is that in demand. This same thing is happening with many friends of mine who are on a similiar level to me with programming. The trend is really becoming quite obvious to me. If you know how to talk to a computer and make a computer do absolutely anything, then you live in a different world than other people. Your life is paid for, your early retirement is set, companies do not interview you, instead you interview companies.

I contrast this with almost every other proffesion and all my friends I know doing something other than computer science. Many of them believe the world is failing, the system is collapsing, the world needs great change, that everything is so diffucult and I just have to slap myself on the head. Really!? Is computer science that hard that your going to spend the next 10 years of your life struggling to live working in a call center instead of just reading a book on C, OpenGL and Vector Calculus? These things are really easy to learn and we NEED MORE PEOPLE DOING THIS! But no your going to struggle and lose your family to poverty instead? (of course not refferring to you specifically, but personal examples I know) It takes alot of heart to find an understanding in that when its so easy for me to learn and make alot of money off these things.

From my point of view it's starting to look like everyone just wants to sit around being an idiot, pretending that life is so diffucult for them, while the people who can build the technological future create the machines to feed the dumb masses, create the machines to entertain the dumb masses, create the machines to clean up after the dumb masses.

Terence Mckenna would sometimes say that a time could come when those who don't know how to speak the lagnauge of the machines, the computers, will basically be left behind and replaced by those who do and the machines they make. This is a dismal fucked up future. But I'm starting to think it is going to be the truth.

 

You are right in that it is also what I decide criteria upon. Is it just that we are not meshing at an interview, do they posses the skills and can I integrate them to a team.

I always have a team, are they a player and can assimilate to a working team. If not then no matter how much talent they have it is not going to fit on the team.

Lesson in life, team players will progress and are an investment.

 

Such insight from someone with 25 years of life experience. Tell the tradesman who at the age of 50 with 30 years experience that has just been laid off this load of crap. It's not easy to find a job at this age. Companies don't want to pay you what you what your worth.

 

Hope ya feel better now - that manifesto would've made the unibomber,s head spin.

 

For sure. I feel very few can hold up against my level of psychosis.

 

Hello,

that is true, true but sad. Being a good engineer and a good communicator at the same time is almost a guarantee for a job, even in times with tight budgets. I work for a small company. Even there I have to communicate with other teams in different countries. Because we are a small company I not only have to give customers solutions for their technical problems, I have to talk to them on a level they can understand, joke with them and make them buy the services we provide . On the other hand we are a refuge for the more introvert type of engineer. I trust them more then anybody else. If I talk to them about a customer's problem and that we have five days to provide a solution, it just works. If there is a solution we have it in five days, no further testing needed. The only trouble is, you can't let this engineers talk to customers .

Regards
Gyro

 

Duh, yeah I'm a lowly operator at a wastewater treatment plant and I don't know anything other than fixing and getting things working that engineers design........... I've been living with this mentality for 31 years. I can't tell you how many times I've proved engineers wrong and their systems won't work in the real world.

 

haha, yes I tend to get hidden in the back room

 

Hello,

yeah, I know what you mean . I often have to work with a software product, that is used in large companies. It works, but it has many rough edges. You can feel, that the software is designed on the round table, not asking the real users about their use cases and usage patterns too much. Before becoming an engineer I was an apprentice at a small workshop. We built and repaired electrical motors, transformers and that stuff. That helped me to form an opinion on certain things. An opinion that is sometimes different from the opinion of people who became engineers without joining the work force for some time before their studies.

Regards
Gyro

 

Hi,

that's not such a huge suprise to us . Try to get out there within the next five or ten years. You will enjoy it.

Regards
Gyro

 

Wait a minute, your an engineer that listens to us underlings and take our advice??????????? You are in the vast minority if you are.

 

Hello,

well, there are always time and money constraints. But again, I work for a smaller company. I have visited most customers I built things for and I know them personally. I deal with the people who use the things I build. Over time they became my customers and not the customers of the company I work for. I like to see them happy. The problem is to understand your customers business. For most technical businesses I understand how they work, how their processes are, how things have to be done etc. But I also work for banks and governments and, oh boy, they have strange processes. Then I have to ask the people there how they do things, what if that happens, does this implies that, what are special laws to follow etc. On the other hand, shit happens and things go south. In my experience in most cases that is caused by communication problems. You don't talk with the important people or you ask wrong questions. Or you assume things that are totally alien to your customer or vice versa.

Regards
Gyro

 

Please, please learn how to spell properly and use correct grammar and punctuation. Then someone might actually take your pseudo intellectual post seriously. Right now everyone is just laughing at you.
And my boyfriend is an accountant...DICK.

 

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